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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pauper" data-source="post: 6722548" data-attributes="member: 17607">And/or work with a former WotC employee who might be able to give you some inside info -- as Necromancer Games/Frog God Games has done with their Kickstarted 5E books, co-authored by former WotC and TSR grognard Steve Winter.Again, the trend seems to be 'if your project involves a former WotC employee, you're probably OK'. The ENWorld En5ider project is just about the only thing I've seen that doesn't follow that trend.Hackmaster wasn't a parody -- it was derived from a license acquired by Kenzer to the old AD&D game system. That's why, after that license expired, Hackmaster got a revision to basically divest itself of its AD&D roots and position itself as an independent game (the '1st party' you're referring to in your comment).And Kenzer's 3E license allowed them to put the 3E D&D logo on all their Kalamar products, which is not something you can do via the OGL; you can't even use the d20 logo with the OGL unless you're also compliant with the d20 license. (That logo decision is part of why Kenzer doesn't sell their own back-stock of 3E Kalamar material anymore.)Sure, you're welcome to prefer the version of Kenzer & Co that exists in your own head, but it's not that difficult to do the research -- mine pretty much consisted of visiting the Kenzer & Co website and checking my PDF copy of Shannon Applecline's 'Designers & Dragons', so it's not like I'm claiming to be definitive here, just a bit more grounded in reality than "I seem to recall this thing from 7 years ago..."--Pauper</blockquote>

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