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Message: <blockquote data-quote="sfedi" data-source="post: 4746904" data-attributes="member: 15746">I like that.I'ld also like to involve the Shahalesti in some way, so the PCs have a first-hand experience with them.Maybe the kidnapped council man was already a Shahalesti Spy, or at least a sympathizer.So the plot would be: - Council man gets kidnaped - Thieve's Guild notices this - City searches for him, but don't find him (even on Black Horse camp) - Rantle steps in, and informs the Council - Council, not wanting to get into more trouble with Ragesia contracts a neutral third party (the PCs) to go to the goblin cave and rescue the council member - Party goes to Goblin caves - Clears some goblins - Finds the kidnapped council member, the spy and some Black Horse members, for a final confrontationAnother plot I thought of: - Party is hired as neutral third party to clear a possible Ragesian outpost, a cave of Goblins - A Shahalesti half-orc spy travels near the goblin cave, he acts as a Ragesian contact for the goblins, and provides support, information, etc. - A Shahalesti scout hides near the goblin cave, waiting to make contact with the half orc spy, get the message, and return to Gate Pass and Shahalesti - The Black Horse, who lives in the area, notices this activity and spies on the nearbies, waiting for an opporunity - PCs get into the cave, and start the slaughter - The Shahalesti scout gets nervous, and follows the PCs into the cave - The Half-orc spy, doesn't confront the PCs, and hides deeper in the cave - Finally, he surrenders, expecting to get out alive - The scout tries to see what's going on, and perhaps interceed, or jump into the fray if the half orc spy is attacked - Meanwhile, the Black Horse calls reinforcements and gets ready to get in the cave as soon as it is abandoned - Except that if the PCs carry the (huge) caché of weapons, the Black Horse will attackIn terms of metagame the idea is this: - Goblin caves: 4 easy encounters, with fleeing goblins, if they fail to corner them properly, they join forces and provide less, tougher, encounters - Spy&Scout encounter, challenging (two lvl 3 elites) but can be talked out - Black Horse encounter, normal difficulty, but can be talked out if they surrender the weapons cachéNow that I have your idea, and mine, maybe I can build something better.I like from you idea Rantle's involvement, and the city involvement.I like from my idea the Black Horse grudge that may result and the Shahalesti involvement.A question about your plot: - Are the Black Horse working with the Ragesians? Are they neutral in the conflict?Thanks a lot for your post.</blockquote>

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