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<blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 7931156" data-attributes="member: 82504"><p>Not available in the PHB I said next to none in the PHB and half later that was a half later I consider it luck that they actually implemented something.</p><p></p><p>I am really having difficulties imagining how a I could frame it and how DM is going to answer that in a coherent way that will make choices like that feel reasonable. </p><p></p><p>Question 1 what might i do in Tier X with this ability and how does that compare to other options in the game like this slew of spells and slew of subclass ability am I ever going to compete with wizards casting spell X or am i always going to be third fiddle because I cannot choose to make special exertion like a monk can with his Ki and so on and so forth.</p><p></p><p>Also requiring a ton out of the DM as well which is perhaps some of the appeal of pf2 (I think it has plenty of excess complexity from 3e still banging around so over all not appealing and 13A actually has anti-tactical choice elements i find unappealing)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Garthanos, post: 7931156, member: 82504"] Not available in the PHB I said next to none in the PHB and half later that was a half later I consider it luck that they actually implemented something. I am really having difficulties imagining how a I could frame it and how DM is going to answer that in a coherent way that will make choices like that feel reasonable. Question 1 what might i do in Tier X with this ability and how does that compare to other options in the game like this slew of spells and slew of subclass ability am I ever going to compete with wizards casting spell X or am i always going to be third fiddle because I cannot choose to make special exertion like a monk can with his Ki and so on and so forth. Also requiring a ton out of the DM as well which is perhaps some of the appeal of pf2 (I think it has plenty of excess complexity from 3e still banging around so over all not appealing and 13A actually has anti-tactical choice elements i find unappealing) [/QUOTE]
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