Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.

Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 7931733" data-attributes="member: 87792">Already answered. In Apocalypse World you can't create an un-special character. But all the characters are special and strongly written to be so and all feel so in play. Flat disproof by counter-example.To me "When everyone is special then no one is" means that someone is taking their philosophy from a cartoon supervillain.And why PF2 might want to follow a lead from 4e? 5e is successful from what I can tell thanks to Matt Mercer and Critical Role (which is where most of the new players are coming from in my experience). Even about a year after the launch of 5e 4e was still raking in millions of dollars a year thanks to the still remaining 4e Insider subscriptions - and we don't know more than that because WotC shut their boards down afterwards. That's still a pretty lucrative market and one worth going after especially when you have a game where another edition you know is going to be controversial. Serving existing 5e players would be a bad choice - 5e players already have a game in print that suits them. This is not a market up for grabs, unlike 4e.And mark me down as another one that finds 5e characters, after five years, more samey than 4e characters were when I started playing (which was admittedly just after the launch of the PHB II; the original PHB was undercooked and both Martial Power and the PHB2 were much better). How characters move matters a lot. And options that encourage spamming (the way the Battlemaster does) are a lot more samey than options that don't (like encounter powers). And being able to swap wizards spellbooks and have them almost swap over is just depressing and means that a wizard's "character" is largely their equipment picks.But as for 3e characters starting out as ordinary people, I'll believe that when I find the ordinary person who can cast Burning Hands. As someone whose two first RPGs were GURPS and WFRP I've never found first level characters in any edition of D&D to be other than already extraordinary (with explicit 0th level characters and commoner classes only underlining this).</blockquote>

Verification