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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 7933317" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>Congratulations. You just described a tank's main gun firing armour piercing ammunition as irrelevant. Because there are very few guns out there. Indeed most of what a tank is going to do is maneuver - actually getting into combat is a rare situation.</p><p></p><p>The 3e ranger is not bad because it is situationally good. It is bad because (a) linear fighter quadratic wizard and (b) its baseline is just not that good. <em>Despite this </em>the Ranger is generally considered to be Tier 4 while the Fighter and Monk are considered Tier 5.</p><p></p><p>Situational is normally useful when it's stacked on a solid baseline. Tide of Iron works despite being situational for two reasons:</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">For an At Will attack 1W + Str is solid even when the push isn't useful. It's not razor-optimised but it's pretty good. With sword and shield it's about 0.6 DPR (or about 10% at level 1 and less at higher levels) behind Reaping Strike and very slightly more behind Shield Feint. But it's near enough to get the job done even when its bonus is not especially useful.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Even if your abilities are situational you have <em>enough </em>situational abilities and the situations are broad enough that you have wide-scale coverage.</li> </ol></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 7933317, member: 87792"] Congratulations. You just described a tank's main gun firing armour piercing ammunition as irrelevant. Because there are very few guns out there. Indeed most of what a tank is going to do is maneuver - actually getting into combat is a rare situation. The 3e ranger is not bad because it is situationally good. It is bad because (a) linear fighter quadratic wizard and (b) its baseline is just not that good. [I]Despite this [/I]the Ranger is generally considered to be Tier 4 while the Fighter and Monk are considered Tier 5. Situational is normally useful when it's stacked on a solid baseline. Tide of Iron works despite being situational for two reasons: [LIST=1] [*]For an At Will attack 1W + Str is solid even when the push isn't useful. It's not razor-optimised but it's pretty good. With sword and shield it's about 0.6 DPR (or about 10% at level 1 and less at higher levels) behind Reaping Strike and very slightly more behind Shield Feint. But it's near enough to get the job done even when its bonus is not especially useful. [*]Even if your abilities are situational you have [I]enough [/I]situational abilities and the situations are broad enough that you have wide-scale coverage. [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
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