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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 7936161" data-attributes="member: 42582">I've never really understood the sameyness thing. In every addition of D&D I've played (B/X, AD&D, 4e) the outcome of an attack is either damage in the form of hp attrition, or condition-infliction, except for some very ad hoc exceptions like vorpal swords, swords of sharpness and withering magic.The difference between characters, for me, is the way they can be used to affect the fiction, not the relationship between player resources, PC resources, pacing and ingame time. In Prince Valiant, Classic Traveller and Cotex+ Heroic all PCs have the same mechanical structure, but they are different characters!I always say what has to be rolled. In my post to [USER=6779196]@Charlaquin[/USER] I was focusing on whether or not takebacks are allowed.This is from the BW Adventure Burner, p 248:In Mouse Guard, we wrote a rule called No Weasels. It says that once a GM sets an obstacle, you must engage it. This rule isn't entirely applicable in Burning Wheel, but it's a good guideline. Once you've stated your intent and task, once your character is in motion and the obstacle has been presented, you're expected to roll the dice. Even if it's too hard! . . . Any questions about rules clarifications and obstacles should be handled before you get to the intent stage. You can ask questions about rules and look stuff up in the rule books. We want you to be informed when you boldly declare your action. We don't want you fishing. "What's the obstacle to convince him? That's too high. What if I intimidate him? What if I use a wise to know what he knows?" An obstacle isn't a physical thing. It's a metaphor. Once it's presented, you need to confront it!I like it.This is a case where MMDV. Systems I know of and run that use one-roll combat resolution include Burning Wheel and Prince Valiant, and neither is particularly lethal. (The Prince Valiant rules state that PC death is not normally a thing in the game.)And I don't really see why arguing and fighting need to be different. One of the more memorable extended contests in our Prince Valiant game was the minstrel/herald PC persuading a NPC noble to surrender. (Now I think about it, the same player has played out memorable social encounters in 4e and Traveller as well.)I don't see any real connection between simple or extended resolution, whether it's talking or fighting (or running, or . . .), and whether the consequences are lethal or something else.</blockquote>

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