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<blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 7936243" data-attributes="member: 6696971"><p>I haven't weighed in on this part of the thread, but I have strong feelings on it and I typically do.</p><p></p><p>Concerning the historical prejudicial approach to martial action resolution (both in design and in adjudication) in D&D.</p><p></p><p>How many folks in this thread are aware what the pinnacle is for human excellence on speed climbing a 15 meter vertical wall with holds constituting a difficulty that your average human couldn't hope to climb at all?</p><p></p><p>Under 5.5 seconds.</p><p></p><p>My guess is most people have never, ever even dreamed of that possibility or ever seen the freakish clip of it here:</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]8Kvq69lvvwU[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p>My thoughts on this are as they always are.</p><p></p><p>This is only the pinnacle now. In 10 years, we'll probably see a full second shaved off of that. Human physical excellence is extraordinary and mostly untapped, because it lies in leveraging the hugely untapped potential of our neurological systems.</p><p></p><p>Reza Alipour, as amazingly athletic/technical/capable as he is, would be immediately turned to cinders or crushed or eviscerated by an Ancient Red Dragon. Same goes for all of our apex athletes on planet earth. Despite the capability of pulling off the freakish feat captured above (climbing an extremely difficult, 15 meter, 5.10 graded wall in under 5.5 seconds), that honed athleticism could never, ever hope to transfer to surviving (let along defeating) an entanglement with an Ancient Red Dragons in melee combat (not if they trained all their days and had modern, carbon fibre armor and melee weaponry)...</p><p></p><p>So some kind of otherworldly freakish athleticism and deployment of neurological system is happening when a Swashbuckling Epic Level Duelist Rogue, equipped only with an enchanted rapier and studded leather is dancing away from their blasts of fire, from their burning inferno aura, and from tail swipes and bites that would total a 5000 lb car...and ultimately felling the beast with dozens of perfectly placed swipes and thrusts. Some kind of otherworldly freakish athleticism and deployment of neurological system that a complete Earthly freak like Reza Alipour could never dream to aspire to.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Manbearcat, post: 7936243, member: 6696971"] I haven't weighed in on this part of the thread, but I have strong feelings on it and I typically do. Concerning the historical prejudicial approach to martial action resolution (both in design and in adjudication) in D&D. How many folks in this thread are aware what the pinnacle is for human excellence on speed climbing a 15 meter vertical wall with holds constituting a difficulty that your average human couldn't hope to climb at all? Under 5.5 seconds. My guess is most people have never, ever even dreamed of that possibility or ever seen the freakish clip of it here: [MEDIA=youtube]8Kvq69lvvwU[/MEDIA] My thoughts on this are as they always are. This is only the pinnacle now. In 10 years, we'll probably see a full second shaved off of that. Human physical excellence is extraordinary and mostly untapped, because it lies in leveraging the hugely untapped potential of our neurological systems. Reza Alipour, as amazingly athletic/technical/capable as he is, would be immediately turned to cinders or crushed or eviscerated by an Ancient Red Dragon. Same goes for all of our apex athletes on planet earth. Despite the capability of pulling off the freakish feat captured above (climbing an extremely difficult, 15 meter, 5.10 graded wall in under 5.5 seconds), that honed athleticism could never, ever hope to transfer to surviving (let along defeating) an entanglement with an Ancient Red Dragons in melee combat (not if they trained all their days and had modern, carbon fibre armor and melee weaponry)... So some kind of otherworldly freakish athleticism and deployment of neurological system is happening when a Swashbuckling Epic Level Duelist Rogue, equipped only with an enchanted rapier and studded leather is dancing away from their blasts of fire, from their burning inferno aura, and from tail swipes and bites that would total a 5000 lb car...and ultimately felling the beast with dozens of perfectly placed swipes and thrusts. Some kind of otherworldly freakish athleticism and deployment of neurological system that a complete Earthly freak like Reza Alipour could never dream to aspire to. [/QUOTE]
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