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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Don Durito" data-source="post: 7941312" data-attributes="member: 6687260">The Grey Mouser would be what?  About 5th or 6th Level?  I don't see any reason to put him higher.  That puts him at about the scale of a wizard with one fireball - that doesn't seem too out of sync to me.Conan would be higher probably more around 8 or 9 - he's getting into superhuman territory.  But he still has trouble with sorcery in the books but of course he gets through a lot because he has very good saving throws so probably feels workable in AD&D, just less so from 3E on.I never really knowwhat to make of the criticism that D&D magic is not like magic in fantasy novels.  Magic in fantasy novels is generally not like magic in fantasy novels (as in they're in no way consistent with each other).  It has to stab at something.  (And actually with traditional D&D you can do an awful lot just by curating the spell lists.).</blockquote>