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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 6004482" data-attributes="member: 6669384">We made some house rules for things like this, particularly with regards to Major Creation, but applicable here as well.In our game worlds, pretty much every merchant or tradesman has a bar or plate of cold iron, usually affixed to their counter top.&nbsp; &quot;Faerie Gold&quot;, as such things are called, revert to their original form or vanish away upon contact with cold iron.&nbsp; (That's the house rule).As for creating diamond dust or other expensive material components?&nbsp; DM's call, but since the change aspect isn't there any more (three guesses as to why) it will be 100% house rule on your part.As a DM, I'd have to reign in my vindictive/mischievous side when some player tried something like that.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; Because counterfeit components invite severe abuse by a DM.Additionally, materials transformed by magic tend to revert if&nbsp; broken.&nbsp; Pieces separated from the &quot;main body&quot; tend to resume their&nbsp; natural form.&nbsp; Since components get consumed (i.e. destroyed/broken) when the spell is cast, at some point in the casting the components will start to vanish, and when they do the remainder will revert.Now the &quot;can't duplicate any other spell&quot; is an obvious patch job left over from 2nd edition, and if taken literally would mean that Prestidigitation couldn't actually do anything at all.&nbsp; Not in a world where Wish exists anyway.&nbsp; So take that part as a guideline, not an absolute rule.Side note:&nbsp; Bat guano is hard to find?&nbsp; Look in any cave, or under the eaves of a building.&nbsp; Bats are far more common than you might think.&nbsp; In New Mexico, not far from Carlsbad, is a cave complex called the &quot;New Cave&quot;.&nbsp; It was used in the making of the film King Solomon's Mines. Bat guano was harvested there for years, hauled out by the ton in a mining bucket big enough to fit a small car.&nbsp; It was used as fertilized in the California orange groves.There are old buildings where the disused section will have it ankle deep on the floor.There's no shortage of bat droppings.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 6004482, member: 6669384"] We made some house rules for things like this, particularly with regards to [I]Major Creation[/I], but applicable here as well. In our game worlds, pretty much every merchant or tradesman has a bar or plate of cold iron, usually affixed to their counter top. "Faerie Gold", as such things are called, revert to their original form or vanish away upon contact with cold iron. (That's the house rule). As for creating diamond dust or other expensive material components? DM's call, but since the change aspect isn't there any more (three guesses as to why) it will be 100% house rule on your part. As a DM, I'd have to reign in my vindictive/mischievous side when some player tried something like that. Why? Because counterfeit components invite severe abuse by a DM. Additionally, materials transformed by magic tend to revert if broken. Pieces separated from the "main body" tend to resume their natural form. Since components get consumed (i.e. destroyed/broken) when the spell is cast, at some point in the casting the components will start to vanish, and when they do the remainder will revert. Now the "can't duplicate any other spell" is an obvious patch job left over from 2nd edition, and if taken literally would mean that [I]Prestidigitation[/I] couldn't actually do anything at all. Not in a world where [I]Wish[/I] exists anyway. So take that part as a guideline, not an absolute rule. Side note: Bat guano is hard to find? Look in any cave, or under the eaves of a building. Bats are far more common than you might think. In New Mexico, not far from Carlsbad, is a cave complex called the "New Cave". It was used in the making of the film King Solomon's Mines. Bat guano was harvested there for years, hauled out by the ton in a mining bucket big enough to fit a small car. It was used as fertilized in the California orange groves. There are old buildings where the disused section will have it ankle deep on the floor. There's no shortage of bat droppings. [/QUOTE]

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