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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 1228838" data-attributes="member: 5777">I know that this question wasnt for me <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> but I thought I'd say a few words.For some reason the search engine isnt working to find older threads for me, or I would post a link to a few of the topics that were on it instead of saying much here.Effectively the mystic theurge is a fix to a problem that should be fixed in the system rather than using a prc, but even with all of the ways people have thought most fall short or go way too far. I've seen a few good ones, still waiting for the perfect one.Giving up those 3 levels is a pretty decent hit. You do gain versitility, but not really as much as you should even with this prestige class. Staying as a straight cleric will generally net you more and better spells to some degree. There were a lot of people who did run downs of spell levels, spells per day, and other various things. The mystic theurge was only slightly ahead in some places and far behind in others. Overall it was shown through various methods that a straight caster was better in more ways than it was worse, and in ways that matter as well. (oh yes, you have to remember that you are also giving up all of the bonus things.. the things that depend on class level such as familiar, turning, certain domains, etc)All in all I like the class and think that while bland, it was meant to be bland. It is a basis class, pretty much another basic character class that has requirements more than a prestige class. They just had to give it a name of a mechanic already in place.As for prestige classes in general they are all over, and this is a good thing. Basically it allows any dm to pick and choose, grab ideas from, steal, modify, and slash whatever needs to be done to give it the proper flavor. So instead of it taking hours and possibly creating a version that is only close to what they want dm's have a pile of them already to choose from. It helps to keep balance and flavor while keeping everything interesting.More ideas = good thing, especially since so many people have such varied tastes in what is 'good' and 'useful'.</blockquote>

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