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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 1228885" data-attributes="member: 957">OK, if you want to start a thread saying that the archmage is a crutch, then fine.I really don't want to play debate the finer details of class X.&nbsp; But I would offer that wizard is a fine, realtively simple class that gets the job done.&nbsp; Archmage is not a &quot;better&quot; wizard, so much as ONE case for an alternate, more complex wizard path.Assuming that the prereqs are negligible (which I don't admit to, but I won't claim they are any great burden) then just look at the abilities.&nbsp; Each one costs a spell slot, now IF a given power is slightly more powerful than a spell with a 24 hour duration of the same level as you give up, then I would argue that the class is not overpowered.&nbsp; In effect you gain a slightly more poowerful spell with the string attached that you are mandated to cast it every day.&nbsp; Now, we can debate the details of each ability, but that would move into implementation.&nbsp; You challenged the very &quot;concept.&quot;&nbsp; I disagree with that claim.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 1228885, member: 957"] OK, if you want to start a thread saying that the archmage is a crutch, then fine. I really don't want to play debate the finer details of class X. But I would offer that wizard is a fine, realtively simple class that gets the job done. Archmage is not a "better" wizard, so much as ONE case for an alternate, more complex wizard path. Assuming that the prereqs are negligible (which I don't admit to, but I won't claim they are any great burden) then just look at the abilities. Each one costs a spell slot, now IF a given power is slightly more powerful than a spell with a 24 hour duration of the same level as you give up, then I would argue that the class is not overpowered. In effect you gain a slightly more poowerful spell with the string attached that you are mandated to cast it every day. Now, we can debate the details of each ability, but that would move into implementation. You challenged the very "concept." I disagree with that claim. [/QUOTE]

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