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<blockquote data-quote="Mordane76" data-source="post: 984616" data-attributes="member: 7172">I really think the easiest fix to this is to stagger your Mage of the Arcane Order levels with actual Wizard levels to denote the advancement of your familiar.So you take a MOOA level, and then a Wiz level, and continue to alternate.&nbsp; You'll still progress at full caster level, but your acquisition of powers from both MOOA and Wiz will be slowed.Honestly, I think this is the fairest way, within the bounds of the standard rules, to do something like this.&nbsp; Taking a flat XP penalty, while it hurts, isn't really the same thing.Regardless, when you look at MOOA, what do you really trade in when you become one?&nbsp; Nothing -- you still get your full progression, and a bunch of nifty bonuses.&nbsp; All you give up is your familiar advancement and a couple bonus feats.&nbsp; This is pretty standard of spellcaster PrC; the only real thing that a Wizard gives up is familiar advancement and a feat or two.&nbsp; It's not the player's fault, but it's really a problem with spellcaster PrC, IMO.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mordane76, post: 984616, member: 7172"] I really think the easiest fix to this is to stagger your Mage of the Arcane Order levels with actual Wizard levels to denote the advancement of your familiar. So you take a MOOA level, and then a Wiz level, and continue to alternate. You'll still progress at full caster level, but your acquisition of powers from both MOOA and Wiz will be slowed. Honestly, I think this is the fairest way, within the bounds of the standard rules, to do something like this. Taking a flat XP penalty, while it hurts, isn't really the same thing. Regardless, when you look at MOOA, what do you really trade in when you become one? Nothing -- you still get your full progression, and a bunch of nifty bonuses. All you give up is your familiar advancement and a couple bonus feats. This is pretty standard of spellcaster PrC; the only real thing that a Wizard gives up is familiar advancement and a feat or two. It's not the player's fault, but it's really a problem with spellcaster PrC, IMO. [/QUOTE]

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