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<blockquote data-quote="Mordane76" data-source="post: 985748" data-attributes="member: 7172">XCorvis: I really think your feat underestimates the power and usefulness of a familiar.&nbsp; Familiars of specific Intelligence and level can speak with master, and since many of these animals are Tiny or Diminuitive, they receive hefty bonuses to Move Silently and Hide.&nbsp; Once an animal possesses the intelligence of a commoner (Int 7-8) and speak with master, it effectively becomes an excellent spy and informant, and can carry some very damaging spells (pretty much any touch spell the master can cast), giving it a nice defensive measure or allowing it to provide an unexpected attack for its master.I think that reducing this issue to a feat would be a very bad idea.&nbsp; Familiars become, quite simply, too useful at higher levels to allow this sort of bypass.&nbsp; The only thing that progresses about a familiar outside the spellcaster class level (and this I agree with as fair) is the familiar's hit points, else the familiar would simply become too useless if a spellcaster decided to multiclass to a PrC.&nbsp; About the only argument I might hear for stacking familiar benefits would be a Wizard/Sorcerer multiclass, but even here I'd be more inclined to all the character two familiars that advanced on the individual class levels (which is entirely within the bounds of the rules as written) than allowing him to stack his Sor and Wiz levels for the purpose of determining the powers of a single familiar.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mordane76, post: 985748, member: 7172"] [b]XCorvis[/b]: I really think your feat underestimates the power and usefulness of a familiar. Familiars of specific Intelligence and level can speak with master, and since many of these animals are Tiny or Diminuitive, they receive hefty bonuses to Move Silently and Hide. Once an animal possesses the intelligence of a commoner (Int 7-8) and speak with master, it effectively becomes an excellent spy and informant, and can carry some very damaging spells (pretty much any touch spell the master can cast), giving it a nice defensive measure or allowing it to provide an unexpected attack for its master. I think that reducing this issue to a feat would be a very bad idea. Familiars become, quite simply, too useful at higher levels to allow this sort of bypass. The only thing that progresses about a familiar outside the spellcaster class level (and this I agree with as fair) is the familiar's hit points, else the familiar would simply become too useless if a spellcaster decided to multiclass to a PrC. About the only argument I might hear for stacking familiar benefits would be a Wizard/Sorcerer multiclass, but even here I'd be more inclined to all the character two familiars that advanced on the individual class levels (which is entirely within the bounds of the rules as written) than allowing him to stack his Sor and Wiz levels for the purpose of determining the powers of a single familiar. [/QUOTE]

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