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<blockquote data-quote="Elethiomel" data-source="post: 4669255" data-attributes="member: 49897"><p>I think the bard is perfect for the job; I don't think anything else is really needed. Glibness and a high bluff score should beat even the most vigilant PC's Sense Motive, and part of setting up a good scam is making it believeable. </p><p></p><p>A high Forgery check doesn't hurt. This is cross-class for bards, which is the only sticking point, unless the PCs become suspicious enough to start using mind reading magic (see below, where I discuss Mind Blank).</p><p></p><p>Bring along some scrolls and UMD, and you can have enough instant-escape options up the NPC's sleeve to get out of most hard situations. Does the NPC know the opposition will be dragonslayers, etc.? If so, you should include some way to circumvent Dimensional Anchor.</p><p></p><p>Now an obvious ability to have access to is Mind Blank. However, this will prevent Discern Location; do you wish the NPC to be unfindable with Discern Location? Note that it gives names of places, not a GPS coordinate, so even NPCs who hide without Mind Blank up can be very hard to catch up to if they move often, and to obscure places - assuming they're unscryable in some other way, so the PCs can't just scry-teleport. </p><p></p><p>Mind Blank is obviously extra useful when being questioned, but it can also be a giveaway (GM: "this person appears to have no surface thoughts whatsoever") if specific detection spells are used against the NPC. I don't have the books with those prestige classes in them to hand, so I don't know - do any of them give the ability to project false surface thoughts? If so, they could be useful for foiling that sort of magic.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elethiomel, post: 4669255, member: 49897"] I think the bard is perfect for the job; I don't think anything else is really needed. Glibness and a high bluff score should beat even the most vigilant PC's Sense Motive, and part of setting up a good scam is making it believeable. A high Forgery check doesn't hurt. This is cross-class for bards, which is the only sticking point, unless the PCs become suspicious enough to start using mind reading magic (see below, where I discuss Mind Blank). Bring along some scrolls and UMD, and you can have enough instant-escape options up the NPC's sleeve to get out of most hard situations. Does the NPC know the opposition will be dragonslayers, etc.? If so, you should include some way to circumvent Dimensional Anchor. Now an obvious ability to have access to is Mind Blank. However, this will prevent Discern Location; do you wish the NPC to be unfindable with Discern Location? Note that it gives names of places, not a GPS coordinate, so even NPCs who hide without Mind Blank up can be very hard to catch up to if they move often, and to obscure places - assuming they're unscryable in some other way, so the PCs can't just scry-teleport. Mind Blank is obviously extra useful when being questioned, but it can also be a giveaway (GM: "this person appears to have no surface thoughts whatsoever") if specific detection spells are used against the NPC. I don't have the books with those prestige classes in them to hand, so I don't know - do any of them give the ability to project false surface thoughts? If so, they could be useful for foiling that sort of magic. [/QUOTE]
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