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<blockquote data-quote="the Jester" data-source="post: 542994" data-attributes="member: 1210">Well, prestige classes (with a few rare exceptions) don't give you penalties- they just don't give you all the stuff you'd get from your other, base classes.&nbsp; The basic idea is that prestige classes let you get either a narrow suite of specialized powers and abilities that you can't achieve any other way (although sometimes epic level abilities can, but that's a whole new ball game) or show elite training from a special organization.&nbsp; The lame prcs are the ones you can easily simulate with skills and feats; in these cases, I'd say the prc's designer was lazy. Kits in 2e were flavor added at first level; prcs are things you have to work up to and achieve.&nbsp; If you played 1e, you're prolly familiar with the 1e bard- if not, basically you took fighter levels, dual-classed to thief, then to druid; but instead of becoming a druid you became a bard.&nbsp; That was basically a prestige class.&nbsp; OD&amp;D had some too, I believe, but I didn't play it by the time all that stuff came out (I'd switched over to ad&amp;d 1e by then).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="the Jester, post: 542994, member: 1210"] Well, prestige classes (with a few rare exceptions) don't give you penalties- they just don't give you all the stuff you'd get from your other, base classes. The basic idea is that prestige classes let you get either a narrow suite of specialized powers and abilities that you can't achieve any other way (although sometimes epic level abilities can, but that's a whole new ball game) or show elite training from a special organization. The lame prcs are the ones you can easily simulate with skills and feats; in these cases, I'd say the prc's designer was lazy. Kits in 2e were flavor added at first level; prcs are things you have to work up to and achieve. If you played 1e, you're prolly familiar with the 1e bard- if not, basically you took fighter levels, dual-classed to thief, then to druid; but instead of becoming a druid you became a bard. That was basically a prestige class. OD&D had some too, I believe, but I didn't play it by the time all that stuff came out (I'd switched over to ad&d 1e by then). [/QUOTE]

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