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<blockquote data-quote="Leatherhead" data-source="post: 7043848" data-attributes="member: 53176"><p>I'm going to go with no.</p><p></p><p>Realistically, PrCs did only three things:</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Get most of the powers of a Base Class with an additional hyperspecialized powerset.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Combine Two Base Classes progression, sometimes with a theme, because the normal multiclass rules tended to suck.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Give a mechanical framework for some RP focused abilities that was of questionable practical use, and tended to make a character that is worse than if they had just stuck to the base class and actually roleplayed out that kind of stuff.</li> </ul><p></p><p></p><p>Subclasses fill the majority of the niche that was once occupied by PrCs. They provide both specialization and RP abilities. If the devs had coordinated the core classes powers by level better, they could have even had subclasses that plugged into multiple different base classes, and totally filled the niche for the RP PrCs that made you into a "knight of the campaign setting" or whatever.</p><p></p><p>Multiclass rules are perhaps some of the best they have ever been in regards to lower level abilities, spells, and powers being useful at high levels. Making the twofor PrCs obsolete or way to powerful to even consider.</p><p></p><p>There are still some small gaps, but given the way that the devs have set up subclasses, feats are now the best place to clean up what little bit of PrCs aren't accounted for. You want to cast spells via runes? Take the "runecaster" feat that lets you do that for every class that can cast spells. It's not like you were planning on doing it at level 1 anyway, and feats are now like an entire feat tree: Giving out three or four related abilities, more than enough to account for an entire PrC's worth of progression.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Leatherhead, post: 7043848, member: 53176"] I'm going to go with no. Realistically, PrCs did only three things: [LIST] [*]Get most of the powers of a Base Class with an additional hyperspecialized powerset. [*]Combine Two Base Classes progression, sometimes with a theme, because the normal multiclass rules tended to suck. [*]Give a mechanical framework for some RP focused abilities that was of questionable practical use, and tended to make a character that is worse than if they had just stuck to the base class and actually roleplayed out that kind of stuff. [/LIST] Subclasses fill the majority of the niche that was once occupied by PrCs. They provide both specialization and RP abilities. If the devs had coordinated the core classes powers by level better, they could have even had subclasses that plugged into multiple different base classes, and totally filled the niche for the RP PrCs that made you into a "knight of the campaign setting" or whatever. Multiclass rules are perhaps some of the best they have ever been in regards to lower level abilities, spells, and powers being useful at high levels. Making the twofor PrCs obsolete or way to powerful to even consider. There are still some small gaps, but given the way that the devs have set up subclasses, feats are now the best place to clean up what little bit of PrCs aren't accounted for. You want to cast spells via runes? Take the "runecaster" feat that lets you do that for every class that can cast spells. It's not like you were planning on doing it at level 1 anyway, and feats are now like an entire feat tree: Giving out three or four related abilities, more than enough to account for an entire PrC's worth of progression. [/QUOTE]
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