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<blockquote data-quote="Magus Coeruleus" data-source="post: 1715046" data-attributes="member: 1704"><p>I really like this idea because it helps solve a problem I was thinking about as to how Glantrian Wizards (Mystara) in one of the Seven Secret Crafts would be converted as a prestige class. In the gazetteer, you have a minimum magic-user level to enter each of the 5 circles of your secret craft, so it's like a 5-level PrC but that you can't advance it one level after the other. You would have access to one circle after level 5, one after level whatever, etc. With prestige feats, you could just dispense with the step or duplicating all of the wizard class features and focus only on what you should gain via each feat, which can have a minimum caster level or spell level. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The fighters shouldn't be a problem because their extra feats have to be from that special list, and the prestige feats would not be on them. So every class would have to purchase these using the feat they get every 3rd level, as you mention. Dealing with the trade-off issue is more complex. On the one hand, only being able to get a PrF every 3rd level is a big limitation in itself, but I suppose that if you wanted to cut back on other abilities to compensate, that can be stipulated as part of the feat. For instance, if you think a wizard should lose access to the bonus feats or familiar advancement, you can make that part of the PrF. Sure, soon enough this becomes just completely replicating Pr classes as feats, but I think the major advantage is supposed to be including social criteria that can apply not only at the beginning, when you first buy into the PrC, but also at each step. Then again, if you're willing to create new Pr Feats, why not just modify how Pr Classes work to require social advances in addition to XP to reach certain levels?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Magus Coeruleus, post: 1715046, member: 1704"] I really like this idea because it helps solve a problem I was thinking about as to how Glantrian Wizards (Mystara) in one of the Seven Secret Crafts would be converted as a prestige class. In the gazetteer, you have a minimum magic-user level to enter each of the 5 circles of your secret craft, so it's like a 5-level PrC but that you can't advance it one level after the other. You would have access to one circle after level 5, one after level whatever, etc. With prestige feats, you could just dispense with the step or duplicating all of the wizard class features and focus only on what you should gain via each feat, which can have a minimum caster level or spell level. The fighters shouldn't be a problem because their extra feats have to be from that special list, and the prestige feats would not be on them. So every class would have to purchase these using the feat they get every 3rd level, as you mention. Dealing with the trade-off issue is more complex. On the one hand, only being able to get a PrF every 3rd level is a big limitation in itself, but I suppose that if you wanted to cut back on other abilities to compensate, that can be stipulated as part of the feat. For instance, if you think a wizard should lose access to the bonus feats or familiar advancement, you can make that part of the PrF. Sure, soon enough this becomes just completely replicating Pr classes as feats, but I think the major advantage is supposed to be including social criteria that can apply not only at the beginning, when you first buy into the PrC, but also at each step. Then again, if you're willing to create new Pr Feats, why not just modify how Pr Classes work to require social advances in addition to XP to reach certain levels? [/QUOTE]
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