Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Pretending to be a Paladin
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="reapersaurus" data-source="post: 1841892" data-attributes="member: 1194"><p>umm.. you're not getting my critique of this character concept.</p><p></p><p>To fake or imitate a CLASS, you have to meta-game things. </p><p>You have to assume that the world knows about D&D classes, and the abilities and skills that come with it.</p><p>This requires a suspension of disbelief that I am not comfortable with.</p><p></p><p>While we, as players, have read the book and understand the mechanics of class levels and abilities, I wouldn't feel comfortable gaming in a world where the common villager asks an outwardly noble and pious adventurer, "Why don't you just Lay Hands on that guy?"</p><p></p><p>This whole approach of bluffing abilities precludes that you don't get what's wrong about faking being a paladin based on the abilities they traditionally have.</p><p></p><p>Further, IMO many players and DM's treat classes as just numbers on paper - they treat their characters as an amalgamation of abilities they can do.</p><p>I sincerely doubt that a village that was being lorded over by an evil creature or organization would question what class the adventurer(s) were that saved them.</p><p>That noble LG fighter that follows Heironeous would be just as celebrated as a LG Paladin who freed them. Just like a LG rouge (yeah, right <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> ) would be celebrated, regardless of what set of powers he used while risking his life for the villagers.</p><p></p><p>BTW: I don't believe you can 'fake' being LG to people for a long period of time. You either are, or you aren't. Your alignment is based on your actions. If you consistently do good, and act like a paladin, than you ARE becoming closer to LG. It's not like a mantle you put on for an act. Alignment reflects your inner being.</p><p>And when people meet you, talk to you, etc they get a sense of what kind of person you are over a long period of time.</p><p></p><p>I've just never been a fan of a world where a group of adventurers walks into town, and the local populace falls on their knees, revering and extolling praise on the party "paladin."</p><p>A true paladin only gets respect from people he encounters by:</p><p>a) the actions that he has done for the people he encounters </p><p>or</p><p>b) the respect he is afforded based on some (usually) religious order that is known to the people he encounters. This order certainly would know whether this rogue is "faking it". Further, I'm sure they'd be quite upset if a rogue was faking being one of their organization, if he wasn't.</p><p></p><p>Any questions, I'd be glad to clarify any of these points.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="reapersaurus, post: 1841892, member: 1194"] umm.. you're not getting my critique of this character concept. To fake or imitate a CLASS, you have to meta-game things. You have to assume that the world knows about D&D classes, and the abilities and skills that come with it. This requires a suspension of disbelief that I am not comfortable with. While we, as players, have read the book and understand the mechanics of class levels and abilities, I wouldn't feel comfortable gaming in a world where the common villager asks an outwardly noble and pious adventurer, "Why don't you just Lay Hands on that guy?" This whole approach of bluffing abilities precludes that you don't get what's wrong about faking being a paladin based on the abilities they traditionally have. Further, IMO many players and DM's treat classes as just numbers on paper - they treat their characters as an amalgamation of abilities they can do. I sincerely doubt that a village that was being lorded over by an evil creature or organization would question what class the adventurer(s) were that saved them. That noble LG fighter that follows Heironeous would be just as celebrated as a LG Paladin who freed them. Just like a LG rouge (yeah, right :rolleyes: ) would be celebrated, regardless of what set of powers he used while risking his life for the villagers. BTW: I don't believe you can 'fake' being LG to people for a long period of time. You either are, or you aren't. Your alignment is based on your actions. If you consistently do good, and act like a paladin, than you ARE becoming closer to LG. It's not like a mantle you put on for an act. Alignment reflects your inner being. And when people meet you, talk to you, etc they get a sense of what kind of person you are over a long period of time. I've just never been a fan of a world where a group of adventurers walks into town, and the local populace falls on their knees, revering and extolling praise on the party "paladin." A true paladin only gets respect from people he encounters by: a) the actions that he has done for the people he encounters or b) the respect he is afforded based on some (usually) religious order that is known to the people he encounters. This order certainly would know whether this rogue is "faking it". Further, I'm sure they'd be quite upset if a rogue was faking being one of their organization, if he wasn't. Any questions, I'd be glad to clarify any of these points. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Pretending to be a Paladin
Top