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<blockquote data-quote="Castellan" data-source="post: 1841972" data-attributes="member: 639"><p>But, why wouldn't a villager ask that? Okay, he might not call it "Laying on Hands," but certainly someone claiming to be a Holy Warrior is going to be viewed as a form of divine influence. In a world where miraculous healing is commonplace -- or at least likely to be a frequent addition to news -- why would someone <strong>not</strong> expect healing of some kind? Only in the most rural areas could someone bilk the common people and get out of town before the truth is known. Someone providing legitimate healing for personal gain (i.e. cold, hard cash) would be more believable.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree with you, here. I <strong>don't</strong> get what's wrong. Internet phishing scams operate on the principle that -- at least for the more sophisticated ones -- you go to a web site and have access to certain features (i.e. your abilities mentioned above) and are tricked into believing the experience is a legitimate one. In the process, the thieves get away with your money/identity/etc. These folks are faking being financial institutions based on the "abilities" they traditionally have.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'll agree with you, here, though I'll disagree, too. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>Philosophical debating aside, at some point the character <strong>is</strong> just an amalgamation of numbers and abilities. It's up to the player to turn that skeleton into a real character, with ideas, ambitions, and motives for being, doing, and acting.</p><p></p><p>It's true that commoners aren't going to care (much) about who saved them from their Horrible Fate(tm). However, the con man concept goes beyond those villagers and tries to deceive those who should know better.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>For the most part, I think you're right. However, I don't think it would be hard to fool people for a pretty long time. Collecting "tithes" for the church is easy enough, and only the people you hang around for a long time (i.e. fellow adventurers) are likely to discover the shenanigans after awhile ("Hey, you've collected 100,000 gold pieces for the Chuch of Philbert, right? So, when you gave them the money, they just <strong>gave</strong> you that <em>longsword +5</em>? Yeah, right... Let's talk, buddy...").</p><p></p><p>Keep in mind that this was a significant theme in "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets." Gilderoy Lockhart -- a dashing "wizard" of "gret ability" -- weaseled his way into the upper echelons of Hogwart's School. He was superb at pretending to be what he wasn't!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Here, we agree completely. However, the average person has a tendency to laud famous, powerful people. A true paladin <strong>does</strong> earn respect from people based on his deeds and actions (and maybe from the nearby monastery, too), but what about the leech who wanders into town and takes advantage of that? Surely, the nearby religious order would take great offense! And to me, this sounds like an excellent reason to play this character rather than to ban him from the game.</p><p></p><p>Although I can't be certain about it, I think that part of the allure of this concept for me is that it not only <strong>could</strong> fail, but more likely <strong>will</strong> fail. And, while I'll admit to having some fun with the front end of the character, I suspect my real enjoyment will come with this character's tragic transformation into- well, whatever he transforms into after his confidence game has been discovered!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I appreciate your opinion on this. I've read a great number of your posts in the past, and I agree with you about 50% of the time. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> Regardless of whether I agree or not, you always have very insightful things to say. So please, pick my logic apart -- I feel it'll force me to make a better character, and that can never be bad.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Castellan, post: 1841972, member: 639"] But, why wouldn't a villager ask that? Okay, he might not call it "Laying on Hands," but certainly someone claiming to be a Holy Warrior is going to be viewed as a form of divine influence. In a world where miraculous healing is commonplace -- or at least likely to be a frequent addition to news -- why would someone [b]not[/b] expect healing of some kind? Only in the most rural areas could someone bilk the common people and get out of town before the truth is known. Someone providing legitimate healing for personal gain (i.e. cold, hard cash) would be more believable. I agree with you, here. I [b]don't[/b] get what's wrong. Internet phishing scams operate on the principle that -- at least for the more sophisticated ones -- you go to a web site and have access to certain features (i.e. your abilities mentioned above) and are tricked into believing the experience is a legitimate one. In the process, the thieves get away with your money/identity/etc. These folks are faking being financial institutions based on the "abilities" they traditionally have. I'll agree with you, here, though I'll disagree, too. :D Philosophical debating aside, at some point the character [b]is[/b] just an amalgamation of numbers and abilities. It's up to the player to turn that skeleton into a real character, with ideas, ambitions, and motives for being, doing, and acting. It's true that commoners aren't going to care (much) about who saved them from their Horrible Fate(tm). However, the con man concept goes beyond those villagers and tries to deceive those who should know better. For the most part, I think you're right. However, I don't think it would be hard to fool people for a pretty long time. Collecting "tithes" for the church is easy enough, and only the people you hang around for a long time (i.e. fellow adventurers) are likely to discover the shenanigans after awhile ("Hey, you've collected 100,000 gold pieces for the Chuch of Philbert, right? So, when you gave them the money, they just [b]gave[/b] you that [i]longsword +5[/i]? Yeah, right... Let's talk, buddy..."). Keep in mind that this was a significant theme in "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets." Gilderoy Lockhart -- a dashing "wizard" of "gret ability" -- weaseled his way into the upper echelons of Hogwart's School. He was superb at pretending to be what he wasn't! Here, we agree completely. However, the average person has a tendency to laud famous, powerful people. A true paladin [b]does[/b] earn respect from people based on his deeds and actions (and maybe from the nearby monastery, too), but what about the leech who wanders into town and takes advantage of that? Surely, the nearby religious order would take great offense! And to me, this sounds like an excellent reason to play this character rather than to ban him from the game. Although I can't be certain about it, I think that part of the allure of this concept for me is that it not only [b]could[/b] fail, but more likely [b]will[/b] fail. And, while I'll admit to having some fun with the front end of the character, I suspect my real enjoyment will come with this character's tragic transformation into- well, whatever he transforms into after his confidence game has been discovered! I appreciate your opinion on this. I've read a great number of your posts in the past, and I agree with you about 50% of the time. ;) Regardless of whether I agree or not, you always have very insightful things to say. So please, pick my logic apart -- I feel it'll force me to make a better character, and that can never be bad. [/QUOTE]
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