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<blockquote data-quote="Pickles JG" data-source="post: 6379701" data-attributes="member: 61501">I depends how they are handled. One monster with a &quot;death effect&quot; or something else really unpleasant that goes off on one dice roll - not very exciting. I remember fighting a series of wights or some other drainy undead in 3e - they take a couple of rounds to chop down &amp; the fight was standing around chopping hoping not to get the unlucky hit/failed save. Totally boring to me but presumably fun for people who like playing slot machines or other pure chance games. Similarly the time I got assassinated by a Wight assassin - make spot check fail, make fort save fail, roll up new character. This guy has the ratcheting tension effect that characterised a lot of good 4e effects (like ongoing damage at the simplest). Once someone gets stunned you have a round to get rid of the Devourer before he kills you - that can be exciting.Note the brain dead guy is still knackered for an indefinite amount of time so I am not sure he is going to have much fun &amp; also they scale terrifyingly - if they are in a pack of 8 &amp; one guy gets stunned then another Devourer will be eating his brain.Mind Flayers are one monster that can be scary but being stunned for 8 rounds by mind blast is not very exciting IME.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pickles JG, post: 6379701, member: 61501"] I depends how they are handled. One monster with a "death effect" or something else really unpleasant that goes off on one dice roll - not very exciting. I remember fighting a series of wights or some other drainy undead in 3e - they take a couple of rounds to chop down & the fight was standing around chopping hoping not to get the unlucky hit/failed save. Totally boring to me but presumably fun for people who like playing slot machines or other pure chance games. Similarly the time I got assassinated by a Wight assassin - make spot check fail, make fort save fail, roll up new character. This guy has the ratcheting tension effect that characterised a lot of good 4e effects (like ongoing damage at the simplest). Once someone gets stunned you have a round to get rid of the Devourer before he kills you - that can be exciting. Note the brain dead guy is still knackered for an indefinite amount of time so I am not sure he is going to have much fun & also they scale terrifyingly - if they are in a pack of 8 & one guy gets stunned then another Devourer will be eating his brain. Mind Flayers are one monster that can be scary but being stunned for 8 rounds by mind blast is not very exciting IME. [/QUOTE]

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