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<blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 7712363" data-attributes="member: 6716779">Bomb's only deal damage similar to cantrips and if you want to spam them may as well play a warlock. &nbsp;Unless they fix that fundamental problem with the class its gonna be weak/suck. Its a half caster that can't fight a'la Paladin/Ranger and its bad at dealing damage vs things like warlocks, invokers, lt clerics etc so its semi pointless to play it and it lacks a nice. d10 bomb short range or just use firebolt+ another cantrip. &nbsp;You probably want 2 sub classes. One is a half caster built around at will AoE damage that can enhance them via spell slots kinda like a Paladin I suppose and the other is a jekyl and hyde type beat stick I suppose. &nbsp;When your class is weaker than all the PHB classes and makes the Beastmaster Ranger look good you have a problem. If you lack level 9 spells you need to be dealing Rogue or Warlock level damage to be competitive- and Rogues are not exactly great at damage they just don't suck. Maybe the class will get a heavy revision IDK, I get the update for free off EN5ider. It seems easier to design archetypes than new classes as a lot of the EN5ider class types compare fine with the PHB ones and are not more powerful or to weak (overall some are meh/yay).&nbsp;You do get a 2nd bomb attack at level 5 (a'la most of the classes) and it seems your bombs scale somehow so it looks to be a big improvement over the original class (which was complete pants). Need to see more.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zardnaar, post: 7712363, member: 6716779"] Bomb's only deal damage similar to cantrips and if you want to spam them may as well play a warlock. Unless they fix that fundamental problem with the class its gonna be weak/suck. Its a half caster that can't fight a'la Paladin/Ranger and its bad at dealing damage vs things like warlocks, invokers, lt clerics etc so its semi pointless to play it and it lacks a nice. d10 bomb short range or just use firebolt+ another cantrip. You probably want 2 sub classes. One is a half caster built around at will AoE damage that can enhance them via spell slots kinda like a Paladin I suppose and the other is a jekyl and hyde type beat stick I suppose. When your class is weaker than all the PHB classes and makes the Beastmaster Ranger look good you have a problem. If you lack level 9 spells you need to be dealing Rogue or Warlock level damage to be competitive- and Rogues are not exactly great at damage they just don't suck. Maybe the class will get a heavy revision IDK, I get the update for free off EN5ider. It seems easier to design archetypes than new classes as a lot of the EN5ider class types compare fine with the PHB ones and are not more powerful or to weak (overall some are meh/yay). You do get a 2nd bomb attack at level 5 (a'la most of the classes) and it seems your bombs scale somehow so it looks to be a big improvement over the original class (which was complete pants). Need to see more. [/QUOTE]

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