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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 3360370" data-attributes="member: 326">Hey Shemeska! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Well they were all judged under the same criteria in 1st Ed. D&D (their original incarnations) so your argument is purely subjective. I'm sorry but thats just utter nonsense. I statted a CR 9721 Neutronium Golem in the Immortals Handbook - Epic Bestiary in a page and a half and that was including the illustration. So this idea that you need a chapter worth of statblocks is a load of baloney.Added to which no one is asking for a CR 7548 Yeenoghu - because it wouldn't make any sense for that character.So you didn't buy The Book of Vile Darkness or Fiendish Codex I: Hordes of The Abyss because it had the stats for these beings? You can't say those were intended as Avatars/Aspect stats because that was a retcon only mentioned in FCII and I suspect was a kneejerk to the criticism they got after FCI.But the flipside to that is that not having stat blocks for these beings diminishes your ability to use them in the game, for those people who wish to do so.Thats all well and good, but surely you want a book to appeal to the largest number of people as possible. A small percentage of epic material within a book will hurt no one. Didn't hurt DMG 3.5, wouldn't have hurt FC I or II. They easily could have had stats in the book for one of the Demon Princes done in that manner and that would have solved the problem. Everybody goes home happy. Epic gamers know they are only a small fraction of the market, all they ask for is a small fraction of a book 'for them'.</blockquote>

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