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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Feeroper" data-source="post: 5876336" data-attributes="member: 83317">I Agree with what you've posted here. While technically the PFB minis have quality paint jobs in terms of detail, I find a number of them not to my tastes artistically. I find they have a very cartoon-ish quality and are a little awkward sometimes. Although I really like the PF goblin personally, I dont deny the Cartoon-like look of some of the other minis.  Another issue I have had with the initial PFB minis is build quality - I dont know if it is just me or not, but Ive had a number of minis outright break on me. The WotC minis are able to take more punishment I find. However, that could just be blind luck on my part (or lack thereof). Also, you bring up a good point in regards to the DDM saturation - I think Dungeon Command is a good soloution to that issue. Where many gamers already have extensive mini collections from previous iterations of the DDM line, DC is going to provide specialized sets that you know what you are getting. They fit in with the the style of pre-existing D&D minis, without having to provide gamers with a whole new line of minis that you have to collect via randomized boosters. As well, these sets will likely just keep cycling over time - (*speculation alert*) so as opposed to trying to fill an old market that isnt what it used to be, by pumping in hundreds of new minis, you'll have a more limited and focussed product line that supplements an already large secondary market. Also, these minis serve more than just the RPG line, you also get a new skirmish game right in the box, and as they have also indicated, the minis also act as additional monsters for the Adventure System board games like Castle Ravenloft, Wrath of Ashardalon and Legend of Drizzt. There is much more value in that box, expecially if you own any of those board games. Plus, as mentioned already the new minis have improved paint jobs. Hmmm, after reading the last paragraph back again, it sounds like I am just advertising for the Dungeon Command Minis. I swear I didnt mean to sound like that! I hope there can be a viable market for both lines to do well, as Id certainly like to see both lines succeed by all means. The PFB minis do have some really nice scuplts too, despite my personal opinion, and Im sure there are lots out there that far prefer the style they have gone with.  In the end though, both these products are pricey. Say what you want about Merrics law, and the reasoning for the higher cost and how its really cheap all things considered. At the end of the day what it comes down to is what is in the consumers wallet, or more importantly, what isnt. No matter how you slice it, this is still expensive. With the current economic woes today, I dont imagine the average gamer will approach a box of DC minis or PFB minis and think they are getting a great deal off the shelf because the cost of oil has gone up. What matters at a customers level is what that number on the label says, relative to whats inside that packaging. What most will see is a higher price tag on something that used to cost a lot less.</blockquote>

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