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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Patlin" data-source="post: 2752576" data-attributes="member: 17264">Hmm.  Some of those calculations are alarming.  I must admit, I made no attempt to min/max the item for price.  I came up with an idea that seemed sort of cool and tried to calculate the price from there.There's essentially no difference between caster level 1 and caster level 5 (except for a targetted dispell magic) where reduce person is concerned.  That could easilly cut the price from the 60,000 that Cabral suggests to 12,000.  [Edit: 6,000 with Patryn's correction.]  Also Patryn's demonstration that it would be more effective to create a totally seperate and slotless "shrink ray" item for the Shrink Item effect is interesting.Thank you all for answering my original question as to whether I was using the item pricing rules correctly, I see that I left out some important bits.  The impression I'm getting overall is that pricing magic items really belongs more in the category of art than of science.  While I realize this is now in jeopardy of being a "house rules" sort of question, does anyone have an opinion on how much the item ought to cost on more of a gut level?Or am I wrong for thinking that it's a bit silly to save a lot of money by chopping the item up into two items and then lowering the caster level?</blockquote>