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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 3162243" data-attributes="member: 141">How about this: if priced with the surcharge and without the alignment discount (which doesn't reduce player utility at all) the item should cost 130,500 gp.  It actually costs 75,000, a difference of 55,500 gp.So when a PC improves this item they work out the cost of the final item with the surcharge and without the alignment discount.  But then they reduce the final amount by 55,500 gp.For example, suppose a player wished to improve the item to give a +8 armor bonus, SR 32, +5 resistance bonus on saves and +4 spell penetration.  Then they'd calculate the cost as follows:SR 32 is 200,000+8 armor bonus is 64,000 x 1.5 is 96,000+5 resistance bonus is 25,000 x 1.5 is 37,500+4 bonus vs SR is 24,000 x 1.5 is 36,000(According to the formula I guessed above)Total: 369,500 - 55,500 = 314,000This is an increase of 229,000 over the base 75,000 price of a robe of the archmagi, so they'd have to pay 114,500 gp in materials and 9,160 xp to upgrade it.  It would take about 4 months.  That's quite a while; I hope the DM allows lots of down-time between adventures!</blockquote>