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Prickly moral situation for a Paladin - did I judge it correctly?
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<blockquote data-quote="Carnifex" data-source="post: 1209648" data-attributes="member: 227"><p>I know what I mean, and I'm talking about choice two from your list. It has become their essential nature, even if they were once not that.</p><p></p><p>I'm not saying its an evil choice to want to redeem a soul. I'm saying it's a negligent choice in the pursuit of the paladin's duties to put redeeming the souls of some vile beings above the safety of a larger number of innocents.</p><p></p><p>And I assume you haev at least a basic working knowledge of the medieval church. If so, you'll know that the response of a cleric to a situation like this would be that the children are beyond redeeming in this life. The best that could be done is to kill them to prevent them causing further evil and also further endangering their own souls through that action, and hope that the Almighty shows them His mercy. However, the fact that they have signed a pact with a demon more or less means they're damned anyway.</p><p></p><p>Let me put it this way; a demon was, in the DnD cosmology, once an innocent.</p><p></p><p>It began as a mortal, even maybe a human child. Then it became evil, died, and reformed as a demon in the outer planes.</p><p></p><p>These 'children' may once have been innocent but they sure as hell aren't any more. And they're a danger, one which the party was unable to contain. So the best course of action is to *kill* as many as possible to reduce the threat that the group poses as a whole, as much as possible.</p><p></p><p>And considering historical examples of what the Church did even to people accused of heresies and falling into evil faiths (eg think of what happened to the Knights Templar in France), and that they did indeed burn accused witches etc, I really think that even had the children been subdued and the Cardinal turned up, the eventual result would have been their death because <em>they aren't children any more</em>. They are evil, remorseless and incredibly dangerous.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Carnifex, post: 1209648, member: 227"] I know what I mean, and I'm talking about choice two from your list. It has become their essential nature, even if they were once not that. I'm not saying its an evil choice to want to redeem a soul. I'm saying it's a negligent choice in the pursuit of the paladin's duties to put redeeming the souls of some vile beings above the safety of a larger number of innocents. And I assume you haev at least a basic working knowledge of the medieval church. If so, you'll know that the response of a cleric to a situation like this would be that the children are beyond redeeming in this life. The best that could be done is to kill them to prevent them causing further evil and also further endangering their own souls through that action, and hope that the Almighty shows them His mercy. However, the fact that they have signed a pact with a demon more or less means they're damned anyway. Let me put it this way; a demon was, in the DnD cosmology, once an innocent. It began as a mortal, even maybe a human child. Then it became evil, died, and reformed as a demon in the outer planes. These 'children' may once have been innocent but they sure as hell aren't any more. And they're a danger, one which the party was unable to contain. So the best course of action is to *kill* as many as possible to reduce the threat that the group poses as a whole, as much as possible. And considering historical examples of what the Church did even to people accused of heresies and falling into evil faiths (eg think of what happened to the Knights Templar in France), and that they did indeed burn accused witches etc, I really think that even had the children been subdued and the Cardinal turned up, the eventual result would have been their death because [i]they aren't children any more[/i]. They are evil, remorseless and incredibly dangerous. [/QUOTE]
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