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Message: <blockquote data-quote="takyris" data-source="post: 1209926" data-attributes="member: 5171">Dragonblade: Complete agreement on the paladin getting only 10 seconds to figure out what to do.  That was an idea for how I was thinking about things, not how the paladin should have thought about things.  My arguments only make sense if the paladin had access to information that, at the time, he didn't have access to -- or time to weigh.Tsyr: The fact that we have a 7-page thread suggests that there was some moral quandry.  The fact that you are not quandered does not mean that the quandry does not exist.  That's somewhat analogous to saying "Well, since Amanda decided not to euthanize her vegetative husband, it wasn't really a quandry, was it?  I don't see why everyone is arguing over it like it's some big moral issue with multiple facets and good points on both sides."  The paladin's actions are not the determinate for a state of quandry.  The 7-page thread is. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Or, in other words, please differentiate your opinion from reality.As I said in the beginning -- my advice for the DM was to avoid penalizing the paladin and to give a few more hints about backstory, so that the players could make a more informed choice next time.  I'd also have left the gods out of it, leaving the moral determination up to the players (ie, no loss of paladin powers, no orders directly from the gods).  I still think that's the right thing to do, in my opinion -- but I can see that other points of view exist, and as both a player and a DM, I can respect that.</blockquote>

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