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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mneme" data-source="post: 4971846" data-attributes="member: 59248">I think it's a deliberate design decision done kinda badly.The problem is not that it's a 2nd level deep feat, but that it's a 2nd level feat that (unlike most 4e tiered feats) requires a specific other feat, instead of requiring a specific feature or combination of features.In the second case, it doesn't matter how you got the features; you have the basic set, here, have some more.  In the first, you have to buy the chain -- which gives a certain amount of control, but tends to make for "you can't get there from here".Consider:2nd Tier Druid [Multiclass Druid].  Prerequisites: Initiate of the Old Faithvs.2nd Tier Druid [Multiclass Druid].  Prerequeisites: Druid, Wild Shapevs.2nd Tier Druid [Multiclass Druid].  Prerequisites: Wild ShapeIn the first case (the one we have), there's an immutable feat chain.  If you want to get better Wild Shape speed, you -will- take Initiate, and then you can take the new feat.  This gives control.On the other hand, the 2nd one gives the -same- amount of control (you need to both have Wild Shape and be a druid before you take the feat) but lets them print up new wild shape feats and have them still work.The third, I'll admit is a risk -- as it's really a 1.5 tier feat (ignoring how dreadfully weak this feat is, due to the inability of multiclass druids to make good use of wild shape.  totally ignoring that; I suppose you could be a half elven druid and get an at will attack).  If they ever print a non-druid class that has the Wild Shape feature, that class could multiclass into Druid with just this feat.  But..that's a -good- thing; it would mean Druid has something to offer a class that has ready-made synergy with Druid, without having to take a redundant feat!</blockquote>

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