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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6732171" data-attributes="member: 22779">Primeval Thule actually has madness checks for spells.&nbsp; I bolded the lines that are pertinent here.&nbsp; How you define &quot;alien or unwholesome magic&quot; is entirely up to you.&nbsp; I would certainly think that anything necromantic comes up.&nbsp; But, then again, you could make the argument for invocations (burning someone to death with hellish flames (who's to say that fireballs look pretty?) could certainly be a check.&nbsp; Popping into a Rope Trick?&nbsp; Extraplanar environment, where you hear the slitherings of unknown purple prose somethings just beyond the safety of your pocket.&nbsp; Anything that summons anything extra planar could be considered unwholesome (what's really the difference between undead spirits and fairy spirits, they're both taboo).That, right there, would pretty much nip in the bud any PC caster.&nbsp; I'd probably, although I haven't looked at it closely, allow bards since the tradition seems pretty benign and most people like bards.&nbsp; As in people in the game world I mean.&nbsp; And, by and large, bardic spells aren't really big and flashy.&nbsp; I'd also allow any partial caster - but, still force the madness checks on any &quot;visual&quot; effects.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 6732171, member: 22779"] Primeval Thule actually has madness checks for spells. I bolded the lines that are pertinent here. How you define "alien or unwholesome magic" is entirely up to you. I would certainly think that anything necromantic comes up. But, then again, you could make the argument for invocations (burning someone to death with hellish flames (who's to say that fireballs look pretty?) could certainly be a check. Popping into a Rope Trick? Extraplanar environment, where you hear the slitherings of unknown purple prose somethings just beyond the safety of your pocket. Anything that summons anything extra planar could be considered unwholesome (what's really the difference between undead spirits and fairy spirits, they're both taboo). That, right there, would pretty much nip in the bud any PC caster. I'd probably, although I haven't looked at it closely, allow bards since the tradition seems pretty benign and most people like bards. As in people in the game world I mean. And, by and large, bardic spells aren't really big and flashy. I'd also allow any partial caster - but, still force the madness checks on any "visual" effects. [/QUOTE]

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