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Message: <blockquote data-quote="rpghost" data-source="post: 588069" data-attributes="member: 2834">Too much to cover here... which is why we plan to produce a book on subject of "offset printing and distribution" ... Anyway, I'd suggest you joing the GPA as they have a tool to allow you to submit to many printers to get a quote. These cost are all based on how many copies you want to make. A big mistake everyone does is over print. You should be careful about that. Swollow your ego and think business. ANyway, a good size might be 1000 copies and the costs can range from $1000-3000 for that page size range... way to vauge to answer you. As for hidden costs- many people forget about shipping of these books to a warehouse. Alliance and other big distributors are NOT going to take your books and store them - you should talk to Impressions or Ossuem or Wizards Attic or someone - but you have to ship to them. That could be $100-500 based on the weight of all the books.You don't need an ISBN unless you're planing to enter into the traditional book market or places like Barns & Nobels... So don't bother. They are about $275 for a block of 10 I think.You're going to be handing over 60% of your retail price to the distributors and ship owners. So you're working off a base 40% at the most. Realistic sales figures would have to know if this is d20 or not and what kind of books. But if you're self-publishing and no one knows you you'll be lucky to sell 500 I think. Just my opinion from what I've seen in this saturated market. Source books sell much more then modules. Campaign source books are not that popular unless it can easily be chopped up for insertion into other campaigns or is marketed really well.Of course you're going to get a lot of answers. I'm just giving you my rough off the cuff call on this.  I do welcome others who are in the "real market" to speak up. John Nephew has posted some really good threads over at <a href="http://www.rpg.net" target="_blank">http://www.rpg.net</a> about actual numbers for one of his recent (non-d20) releases... Check it out (don't have the link off hand, was a couple months ago).Also he posted a worksheet to the d20weekly.com site:<a href="http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25755" target="_blank">http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25755</a>James</blockquote>

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