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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5068380" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>So does working for the mob or being in a street gang. In D&D terms, you seem to be advocating for a rehabilitation from chaotic to lawful, and not necessarily of evil to good. I'm not sure that it would necessarily be an improvement to go from unfocused random individual acts of evil to organized, cooperative, goal-oriented evil.</p><p></p><p>Seriously, I don't think you can argue for the rehabilitative nature of D&D. D&D can be a very moral game if you play it that way. In theory, it could be socializing and teach something of a moral compass. But, D&D can be a very amoral game if you play it that way. And, D&D can be a very immoral game if you play it that way. There is nothing inherently instructive much less redeeming about it. This is at the minimum the corallary to the claim that its 'just a game' (which I disagree with, in any event).</p><p></p><p>Sure, D&D in theory can teach you basic math, vocabulary, spatial skills, small group leadership skills, etc., but none of those things make someone less likely to kill in and of themselves.</p><p></p><p>I kind of shudder to think what a game of D&D played by actual murderers would look like given what the game often objectively looks like played by generally law abiding and somewhat moral individuals. Given the presumable lack of a moral compass present in the group at hand, I find it very unlikely that the game they were playing was managing to teach them right from wrong when life failed at that task.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 5068380, member: 4937"] So does working for the mob or being in a street gang. In D&D terms, you seem to be advocating for a rehabilitation from chaotic to lawful, and not necessarily of evil to good. I'm not sure that it would necessarily be an improvement to go from unfocused random individual acts of evil to organized, cooperative, goal-oriented evil. Seriously, I don't think you can argue for the rehabilitative nature of D&D. D&D can be a very moral game if you play it that way. In theory, it could be socializing and teach something of a moral compass. But, D&D can be a very amoral game if you play it that way. And, D&D can be a very immoral game if you play it that way. There is nothing inherently instructive much less redeeming about it. This is at the minimum the corallary to the claim that its 'just a game' (which I disagree with, in any event). Sure, D&D in theory can teach you basic math, vocabulary, spatial skills, small group leadership skills, etc., but none of those things make someone less likely to kill in and of themselves. I kind of shudder to think what a game of D&D played by actual murderers would look like given what the game often objectively looks like played by generally law abiding and somewhat moral individuals. Given the presumable lack of a moral compass present in the group at hand, I find it very unlikely that the game they were playing was managing to teach them right from wrong when life failed at that task. [/QUOTE]
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