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<blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 2172172" data-attributes="member: 478"><p>Calculating it would be fairly easy. You just take all possible results (3-18) and calculate the probability to get it (taken from dcollins' table) and then weigh it with the PB value of that score, but I think you are already doing that, given that other thread of yours (for this purpose it's probably best to use a linear negative PB score, btw). <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>So you get (16x21+13x54+10x94+...-5x1)/1296 ~ average PB value of one 4d6dl roll.</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">The numbers in the sum are PB value of the score (16 for 18; 13 for 17; 10 for 16; ...; -5 for 3) multiplied by the number of combinations, which result in that score (21 for 18; 54 for 17; 94 for 16; ...; 1 for 3).</span></p><p></p><p>Multiply that number by 6 and you got the approximated average PB value of the 4d6dl method.</p><p></p><p>The result is 6293/1296*6=29.134 (if all scores of 8 or lower count as 0 PB) and 6166/1296*6=28.546 (if scores below 8 count as -1, -2, -3, -4 and -5 PB respectively).</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">(Hopeless characters and re-rolls not figured in yet, but they only increase those numbers and certainly not by much. And a bit higher for 4d6dl is ok, anyways, since you do not have the same flexibility in distributing the points among the abilities.)</span></p><p></p><p>Therefore PB 28 is most close to 4d6dl. PB 25 is more like low-powered, not average.</p><p></p><p>Bye</p><p>Thanee</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thanee, post: 2172172, member: 478"] Calculating it would be fairly easy. You just take all possible results (3-18) and calculate the probability to get it (taken from dcollins' table) and then weigh it with the PB value of that score, but I think you are already doing that, given that other thread of yours (for this purpose it's probably best to use a linear negative PB score, btw). ;) So you get (16x21+13x54+10x94+...-5x1)/1296 ~ average PB value of one 4d6dl roll. [size=1]The numbers in the sum are PB value of the score (16 for 18; 13 for 17; 10 for 16; ...; -5 for 3) multiplied by the number of combinations, which result in that score (21 for 18; 54 for 17; 94 for 16; ...; 1 for 3).[/size] Multiply that number by 6 and you got the approximated average PB value of the 4d6dl method. The result is 6293/1296*6=29.134 (if all scores of 8 or lower count as 0 PB) and 6166/1296*6=28.546 (if scores below 8 count as -1, -2, -3, -4 and -5 PB respectively). [size=1](Hopeless characters and re-rolls not figured in yet, but they only increase those numbers and certainly not by much. And a bit higher for 4d6dl is ok, anyways, since you do not have the same flexibility in distributing the points among the abilities.)[/size] Therefore PB 28 is most close to 4d6dl. PB 25 is more like low-powered, not average. Bye Thanee [/QUOTE]
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