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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Philip" data-source="post: 909361" data-attributes="member: 10993">Solution 1 is always to talk with your players openly. Maybe they even have a few good suggestions of how to go about solving your problem.I am always amazed at the huge number of rust monster/Mordenkainen's Disjunction/thieves like ploys come up. If you play such encounters out unfairly, its just like saying, I am going to take your items away regardless of what you do. You are setting yourself up as their opponent that way, and an opponent from which they always lose. On the other hand, if you play such encounters fairly, they might easily backfire if you destroy the items you didn't want to be destroyed, or destroying the items of the character who already has the least. Even then, its difficult to pull it of so subtle that your players won't get the idea that you're trying to take away their precious items.Just talk first. Maybe just one of your players wouldn't mind reducing his +6 headband to +4, then maybe the next wouldn't mind turning his major cloak of displacement into a minor one. And if two players have sacrificed something, peer pressure will often force the third to give up something as well. Everyone's enjoyment will increase in the long run, although giving up some items may be painful on the short run.If they don't cooperate, just say that you are imposing a maximum limit of wealth equal to that mentioned on page 145 of the DMG. You could even allowed them to choose which items can go, if you trust them enough. If your players still don't want to cooperate, you can always point out to them that there are two options left to you now:1. Hit them with the rust monster and Disjunction and all those other heavy handed plans in an unfair way. You are the DM, they are gonna lose eventually.2. Quit playing with them.But still I strongly suggest talking with them openly. I think any DM can throw a Mordenkainen's Disjunction against the PCs, but it takes a truly good DM to talk openly about such issues and find a solution together.</blockquote>

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