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<blockquote data-quote="cougent" data-source="post: 4045137" data-attributes="member: 48665">We sound dangerously similar... no offense intended!In RL, I have spent 24 hours resurrecting a dead PC for a family friend who had all his wedding and baby pictures on it and corrupted windows and had no backups simply because he politely asked me to do it.&nbsp; In another case a family member essentially demanded that I &quot;fix his computer&quot; which he had infected with numerous viruses from &quot;surfing the web&quot; and that I do it right away and without loosing anything... that did not evoke the same response.I will fully admit that I am all about the presentation.&nbsp; A player can state right in the middle of a game &quot;Uh, I think you got that wrong.&quot; and I will say &quot;You may be right, do we take a break and look it up now or do we fix it later?&quot;&nbsp; Similarly if the initial report is [Dice flying across the room] &quot;That call was S***!&quot; then there will be no discussion and we will not fix anything, except he may be asked not to return.&nbsp; In between actions get in between responses.My definition of whining is also more of the high nasal pitch, over exaggeration of syllables [&quot;Oh man&quot; from the cartoon Ben 10 but worse], and repeated insistence upon being correct in some other situation &quot;Told you sooo...&quot;&nbsp; This also crosses / meshes with just plain rudeness.&nbsp; I have an extremely low threshold for rudeness.[I have never had a player throw dice in frustration, but have had the immediate visceral response... once]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="cougent, post: 4045137, member: 48665"] We sound dangerously similar... no offense intended! In RL, I have spent 24 hours resurrecting a dead PC for a family friend who had all his wedding and baby pictures on it and corrupted windows and had no backups simply because he politely asked me to do it. In another case a family member essentially demanded that I "fix his computer" which he had infected with numerous viruses from "surfing the web" and that I do it right away and without loosing anything... that did not evoke the same response. I will fully admit that I am all about the presentation. A player can state right in the middle of a game "Uh, I think you got that wrong." and I will say "You may be right, do we take a break and look it up now or do we fix it later?" Similarly if the initial report is [Dice flying across the room] "That call was S***!" then there will be no discussion and we will not fix anything, except he may be asked not to return. In between actions get in between responses. My definition of whining is also more of the high nasal pitch, over exaggeration of syllables ["Oh man" from the cartoon Ben 10 but worse], and repeated insistence upon being correct in some other situation "Told you sooo..." This also crosses / meshes with just plain rudeness. I have an extremely low threshold for rudeness. [I have never had a player throw dice in frustration, but have had the immediate visceral response... once] [/QUOTE]

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