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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Zardoz" data-source="post: 4047427" data-attributes="member: 704">What I will say in response to that is the following:1)&nbsp; Expecting all sides of any disagreement to act rationally is not an assumption a rational person ought to make.2)&nbsp; Attempting to act rationally in an irrational situation is not in any way guaranteed to be the most optimal strategy.3)&nbsp; Bacon is tasty.4)&nbsp; Adults are indeed permitted to give one another a hard time and hurt each others feelings.4a)&nbsp; Adults are also held responsible for their actions.People can and often will get away with exactly as much as the people around them are willing to let them get away with.&nbsp; None of my suggestions are ones I would advocate in anything resembling a rational situation, except perhaps the Ultimatum.&nbsp; And even then, getting up and walking out mid game is the last step of a process that has a few previous points of escalation along the way.&nbsp; Walking out midgame would only happen if the DM basically lies to you about being willing to fix the problem and then does not, or if the DM is enough of an idiot to fail to realize what you were talking about when you described what would cause you to get up and walk away.If I was to walk out in the middle of a game, it would be of course be rude, and much more disruptive than it needs to be.&nbsp; You will very probably ruin that particular playing session for the rest of the players.&nbsp; You would certainly piss off the DM.&nbsp; You may well find yourself without a group for quite a while as a result of it.&nbsp; On top of that, you run a high chance of damaging some out of game friendships.However, walking out midgame and carrying out an earlier ultimatum is going to be let the DM know in no uncertain terms what you are no longer willing to let him get away with.Anyway, I think this would be a good point for us to let this thread get back to its original topic.&nbsp; You and I disagree about what is and is not an appropriate response to a hypothetical situation.END COMMUNICATION</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lord Zardoz, post: 4047427, member: 704"] What I will say in response to that is the following: 1) Expecting all sides of any disagreement to act rationally is not an assumption a rational person ought to make. 2) Attempting to act rationally in an irrational situation is not in any way guaranteed to be the most optimal strategy. 3) Bacon is tasty. 4) Adults are indeed permitted to give one another a hard time and hurt each others feelings. 4a) Adults are also held responsible for their actions. People can and often will get away with exactly as much as the people around them are willing to let them get away with. None of my suggestions are ones I would advocate in anything resembling a rational situation, except perhaps the Ultimatum. And even then, getting up and walking out mid game is the last step of a process that has a few previous points of escalation along the way. Walking out midgame would only happen if the DM basically lies to you about being willing to fix the problem and then does not, or if the DM is enough of an idiot to fail to realize what you were talking about when you described what would cause you to get up and walk away. If I was to walk out in the middle of a game, it would be of course be rude, and much more disruptive than it needs to be. You will very probably ruin that particular playing session for the rest of the players. You would certainly piss off the DM. You may well find yourself without a group for quite a while as a result of it. On top of that, you run a high chance of damaging some out of game friendships. However, walking out midgame and carrying out an earlier ultimatum is going to be let the DM know in no uncertain terms what you are no longer willing to let him get away with. Anyway, I think this would be a good point for us to let this thread get back to its original topic. You and I disagree about what is and is not an appropriate response to a hypothetical situation. END COMMUNICATION [/QUOTE]

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