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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 5630117" data-attributes="member: 6669384">Sadly, other players' cheating *does* hurt you.&nbsp; The DM has to increase the power of the encounters to balance the cheater's tactics, and that makes it harder for your character.Additionally, it bleeds the challenge from the game and dilutes any joy of achievement.I suspect your friend liked playing the Gestalt variant because it made his characters more powerful, and that was what he was after.&nbsp; Selective reading (or mis reading) of rules is another symptom of the power-gamer/munchkin.Sadly, you can't prove the power gamer &quot;wrong&quot;, at least not in their mind.&nbsp; Being the &quot;best&quot; is their priority, their focus.&nbsp; You can slap their character down as hard as you like, and all you'll do is convince them that they need even more power.What should you do?&nbsp; That's up to you.&nbsp; Confronting him all the time may turn your game times into a contentious, stress filled waste of time.&nbsp; It may ruin the fun for everyone.&nbsp; On the other hand, if you don't confront him it may ruin everyone's fun anyway.If you think you can change the situation then go ahead and catch him when he cheats.&nbsp; Call him on his selective use of the rules and cast Dispel BS on him as often as need be.&nbsp; Listen to his &quot;innocent&quot; suggestions and requests with suspicion, and encourage the DM to make &quot;No&quot; the default answer.Hopefully he'll learn.&nbsp; But be ready to have the DM side with him, and to have your game make that sad journey down the yellow brick road to munchkin land.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 5630117, member: 6669384"] Sadly, other players' cheating *does* hurt you. The DM has to increase the power of the encounters to balance the cheater's tactics, and that makes it harder for your character. Additionally, it bleeds the challenge from the game and dilutes any joy of achievement. I suspect your friend liked playing the Gestalt variant because it made his characters more powerful, and that was what he was after. Selective reading (or mis reading) of rules is another symptom of the power-gamer/munchkin. Sadly, you can't prove the power gamer "wrong", at least not in their mind. Being the "best" is their priority, their focus. You can slap their character down as hard as you like, and all you'll do is convince them that they need even more power. What should you do? That's up to you. Confronting him all the time may turn your game times into a contentious, stress filled waste of time. It may ruin the fun for everyone. On the other hand, if you don't confront him it may ruin everyone's fun anyway. If you think you can change the situation then go ahead and catch him when he cheats. Call him on his selective use of the rules and cast Dispel BS on him as often as need be. Listen to his "innocent" suggestions and requests with suspicion, and encourage the DM to make "No" the default answer. Hopefully he'll learn. But be ready to have the DM side with him, and to have your game make that sad journey down the yellow brick road to munchkin land. [/QUOTE]

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