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<blockquote data-quote="Renfield" data-source="post: 4573455" data-attributes="member: 13493"><p>Greetings,</p><p></p><p>As Ero Gaki's GM I figured I should post my two coppers worth. I could easily say that I spend more time around Fred than Ero Gaki, the two have butted heads in the past but I will say Ero has always been the more adult when an issue has been brought up. Here's a little more info on Fred that might give people a little more understanding. Fred is used to playing in the live action RP of White Wolf's World of Darkness. I'm not going to try to describe it for those who don't know but he's involved with the Cammarilla which is like RPGA's Living Greyhawk and other campaigns. He'd a pretty big guy there as he's been involved for over a decade and has a freakishly high MC class. Think of MC as when a new edition kicks in or your character dies you automatically start a new character out at a certain level.</p><p></p><p>He has quite the following in our region, is quite knowledgeable about the rules system in general and a good role player to boot. A dangerous combination if handled poorly. In our region little happens without his input, knowledge, or having the ability to squish. Move him to a game where he doesn't know the rules quite as well, isn't in the spot light, and can be on the receiving end of the squishing as much as the giving and you have a recipe for... well... what we have.</p><p></p><p>Fred has already been spoken with about his attitude before. To be fair he's improved, he was confronted about his complaining, which, under the right circumstances is downright entertaining but certainly wasn't in that case. He acknowledged it and promptly stopped. I was impressed and happy with it for a few sessions and then discovered the other problem, his sulking. Get the guy in a good mood when the party is laying waste and I'm feeling bored because I know a nat 20 is what's needed to hit these guys but the enemy will likely be dead by the end of the second round and he's happy as a clam. Get some hard hitting guys who provide a challenge or some unique beasty that he's never seen before and the sulking hits. </p><p></p><p>He's also annoyed with things not having an explanation that's readily evident to himself. It's hard for me to think of any examples off the top of my head but finding strange objects in places where it seems there is no rhyme or reason for them being there, wondering why a small town of all places is getting such attention and other things irritate him. As I'm running these games from a series of modules there's naturally a back story that the players don't quite understand just yet. One that may or may not be revealed depending on their actions and investigations. This back story explains almost everything but if I were to answer his questions in any fashion other than I have been (vague answers that his character might come up with, etc.) then I'd be spoiling much of the over arching story.</p><p></p><p>Either way, I intend to talk to him again, I wish to speak to his friends who are in the game about his attitude because I think if they spoke up about it rather than just sitting aside and saying nothing then he might actually tone it down. I want giving him the boot to be the last resort on this matter but I'll make it clear that that is an option I'm considering when I converse with him. Anyway, while I didn't start this thread I wish to thank everyone for their advice on the matter.</p><p></p><p>Renfield</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Renfield, post: 4573455, member: 13493"] Greetings, As Ero Gaki's GM I figured I should post my two coppers worth. I could easily say that I spend more time around Fred than Ero Gaki, the two have butted heads in the past but I will say Ero has always been the more adult when an issue has been brought up. Here's a little more info on Fred that might give people a little more understanding. Fred is used to playing in the live action RP of White Wolf's World of Darkness. I'm not going to try to describe it for those who don't know but he's involved with the Cammarilla which is like RPGA's Living Greyhawk and other campaigns. He'd a pretty big guy there as he's been involved for over a decade and has a freakishly high MC class. Think of MC as when a new edition kicks in or your character dies you automatically start a new character out at a certain level. He has quite the following in our region, is quite knowledgeable about the rules system in general and a good role player to boot. A dangerous combination if handled poorly. In our region little happens without his input, knowledge, or having the ability to squish. Move him to a game where he doesn't know the rules quite as well, isn't in the spot light, and can be on the receiving end of the squishing as much as the giving and you have a recipe for... well... what we have. Fred has already been spoken with about his attitude before. To be fair he's improved, he was confronted about his complaining, which, under the right circumstances is downright entertaining but certainly wasn't in that case. He acknowledged it and promptly stopped. I was impressed and happy with it for a few sessions and then discovered the other problem, his sulking. Get the guy in a good mood when the party is laying waste and I'm feeling bored because I know a nat 20 is what's needed to hit these guys but the enemy will likely be dead by the end of the second round and he's happy as a clam. Get some hard hitting guys who provide a challenge or some unique beasty that he's never seen before and the sulking hits. He's also annoyed with things not having an explanation that's readily evident to himself. It's hard for me to think of any examples off the top of my head but finding strange objects in places where it seems there is no rhyme or reason for them being there, wondering why a small town of all places is getting such attention and other things irritate him. As I'm running these games from a series of modules there's naturally a back story that the players don't quite understand just yet. One that may or may not be revealed depending on their actions and investigations. This back story explains almost everything but if I were to answer his questions in any fashion other than I have been (vague answers that his character might come up with, etc.) then I'd be spoiling much of the over arching story. Either way, I intend to talk to him again, I wish to speak to his friends who are in the game about his attitude because I think if they spoke up about it rather than just sitting aside and saying nothing then he might actually tone it down. I want giving him the boot to be the last resort on this matter but I'll make it clear that that is an option I'm considering when I converse with him. Anyway, while I didn't start this thread I wish to thank everyone for their advice on the matter. Renfield [/QUOTE]
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