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<blockquote data-quote="bret" data-source="post: 70820" data-attributes="member: 713">Couple of more questions about Empower:<ol>
<li data-xf-list-type="ol">If you use Empower twice, do you have to apply each Empower separately and round at each step? 
 
For example if you cast a Double Empowered Cat's Grace and roll a result of 5, is the final value 10 (5 + 2.5 + 2.5) or 9 (5 + 2 + 2). 
 
Caliban has said he believes you round at each step, whereas I think it is more consistent and easier if you don't round until the end. 
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<li data-xf-list-type="ol">If you Empower a spell like Shocking Grasp or Cure Light Wounds, do you multiple just the die value by 1.5 or the total (d8 + caster level) by 1.5? 
 
I think the consensus was that you don't get the caster level portion of a spell multiplied. I think the reason is that it is not part of the variable (random) result. Do put it another way, if you can't replace it with a strangely marked die it isn't a variable result. 
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[QUOTE="bret, post: 70820, member: 713"] Couple of more questions about Empower: [list=1] [*]If you use Empower twice, do you have to apply each Empower separately and round at each step? For example if you cast a Double Empowered Cat's Grace and roll a result of 5, is the final value 10 (5 + 2.5 + 2.5) or 9 (5 + 2 + 2). Caliban has said he believes you round at each step, whereas I think it is more consistent and easier if you don't round until the end. [*]If you Empower a spell like Shocking Grasp or Cure Light Wounds, do you multiple just the die value by 1.5 or the total (d8 + caster level) by 1.5? I think the consensus was that you don't get the caster level portion of a spell multiplied. I think the reason is that it is not part of the variable (random) result. Do put it another way, if you can't replace it with a strangely marked die it isn't a variable result. [/list=1][/list] [/QUOTE]

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