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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 6242902" data-attributes="member: 6669384">Hmm You seem to have excluded all information gathering spells and abilities.&nbsp; Not sure I agree, but it's your game.Our current campaign removed Teleport and it's greater kin, but left Dimension Door in place.&nbsp; Our reasoning was that we didn't want spells/abilities that removed overland adventuring from play.&nbsp; We also played up Shadow Walk as a scary and dangerous spell to use, a journey through the nightmare realm, or a walk by the river Styx.&nbsp; While we've never actually played a nasty encounter in the Shadow realm, as PCs it's a constant fear.&nbsp; As players it's a decision not to abuse.&nbsp; Oddly, it's been the DMs who fudge this rule the most often, with various temples or whoever in NPCdom calling for or supplying the Teleportation effect.We also excluded any Divination spell that speaks directly to a deity.&nbsp; So low level stuff like Augry works, as does Scrying, but simply asking god to solve your problems for you seemed like cheating, so those spells were out.Of course, our group doesn't abuse Detect Magic abilities.&nbsp; Our gaming style makes it hard, unless you have it always available.&nbsp; Too many opportunities to use it, and so few where it would pay off.&nbsp; You run out of Detect too fast.&nbsp; And again, it's a collective decision not to ruin the adventures that the various DM's have worked so hard to design for us.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 6242902, member: 6669384"] Hmm You seem to have excluded all information gathering spells and abilities. Not sure I agree, but it's your game. Our current campaign removed [I]Teleport[/I] and it's greater kin, but left [I]Dimension Door[/I] in place. Our reasoning was that we didn't want spells/abilities that removed overland adventuring from play. We also played up [I]Shadow Walk[/I] as a scary and dangerous spell to use, a journey through the nightmare realm, or a walk by the river Styx. While we've never actually played a nasty encounter in the Shadow realm, as PCs it's a constant fear. As players it's a decision not to abuse. Oddly, it's been the DMs who fudge this rule the most often, with various temples or whoever in NPCdom calling for or supplying the [I]Teleportation[/I] effect. We also excluded any Divination spell that speaks directly to a deity. So low level stuff like [I]Augry[/I] works, as does [I]Scrying[/I], but simply asking god to solve your problems for you seemed like cheating, so those spells were out. Of course, our group doesn't abuse [I]Detect Magic[/I] abilities. Our gaming style makes it hard, unless you have it always available. Too many opportunities to use it, and so few where it would pay off. You run out of [I]Detect[/I] too fast. And again, it's a collective decision not to ruin the adventures that the various DM's have worked so hard to design for us. [/QUOTE]

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