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<blockquote data-quote="athos" data-source="post: 6248475" data-attributes="member: 32605">[MENTION=16170]Obormot[/MENTION]I think you missed the forest for the trees here.&nbsp; The problem isn't blasphemy or holy word, its the twinking some players do.&nbsp; The spells as written only kill the riff raff, 10 hd below the caster, which is fine.What isn't fine is when the players use magic items, feats, etc. to boost up their casting level into the stratosphere that the spell kills creatures with higher hd than the party.&nbsp; This is twinking.The GM, can take a phasm, or some other lowly monster, give it the half fiend template and advance it's hd to huge levels while still keeping its CR at the appropriate level for the party.&nbsp; It will kill the party, no save with a blasphemy.Both situations are completely &quot;legal&quot; and within the bounds of play as written, but both are examples of twinking.I guess if you are a min/maxer, then twinking is fine.&nbsp; But for most players and GMs it ruins the game, because instead or RPing the player (s) is just looking how to use the rules to break the game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="athos, post: 6248475, member: 32605"] [MENTION=16170]Obormot[/MENTION] I think you missed the forest for the trees here. The problem isn't blasphemy or holy word, its the twinking some players do. The spells as written only kill the riff raff, 10 hd below the caster, which is fine. What isn't fine is when the players use magic items, feats, etc. to boost up their casting level into the stratosphere that the spell kills creatures with higher hd than the party. This is twinking. The GM, can take a phasm, or some other lowly monster, give it the half fiend template and advance it's hd to huge levels while still keeping its CR at the appropriate level for the party. It will kill the party, no save with a blasphemy. Both situations are completely "legal" and within the bounds of play as written, but both are examples of twinking. I guess if you are a min/maxer, then twinking is fine. But for most players and GMs it ruins the game, because instead or RPing the player (s) is just looking how to use the rules to break the game. [/QUOTE]

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