NOW LIVE! Today's the day you meet your new best friend. You don’t have to leave Wolfy behind... In 'Pets & Sidekicks' your companions level up with you!

Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="hammymchamham" data-source="post: 433522" data-attributes="member: 4219">since you want to hand them there butts, but don't want to kill them, use Subdual damage, specifically though Subdual Substitution (Tomb and Blood). Throw a few subdual substituded spells their way, and knock them out. Afterwards, they wake up (hours later? days later? who knows) in a 4 sided room with 4 doors, all of their equipment is missing. The room they are in is the center of a maze. There is one exit. Since the wizard is without his spellbook, they won't be teleporting away (unless he has mastery), but if he somehow is able to "relearn" it, just have the maze be protected by some kind of force that causes that spell to fail.The wizard (sorceror, or group of magic users?) meets the PC's at the exit of the maze... now you can make these guy(s) into what ever you want, a group of evil NPCs out to kill the PCs. A group who is testing the PCs for something (which is what I am using)... or whateverThis is how I am starting my upcomming campaign, except I'm not taking their equipment away, since they're starting at lvl 5, and I am using a Wizard 5/Elemental Savant(Air) 8 (13th level) with some grunts to soak up early damage.A few subdual subtituted cone of colds (or any elemental spells) could help knock them out. Plus they have low reflex saves (none are from classes with that as a good save) and none have evasion or improved evasion, so no need to worry about saves for no damage. Just get a few high level spell casters to ensure that the PCs will be knocked out.</blockquote>

Verification