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Message: <blockquote data-quote="skunian" data-source="post: 116353" data-attributes="member: 3094">We use the passive/active system as well. Anything that a PC might notice from casual observation uses Spot, this includes hidden creatures, or anything else a PC may notice is out of place. Anytime that a PC is activley searching fo something, also including hidden creatures/objects or clues uses search. I let my players roll their own spot checks, one thing I never liked to do is roll things for my PC's and if I ever had a problem with metagame knowledge I'd simply explain why the PC couldn't or wouldn't do what they player was trying to hav them do and it's never been an issue.Edit for Spelling.</blockquote>