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<blockquote data-quote="Anubis" data-source="post: 1568007" data-attributes="member: 2358">It would indeed be that low.&nbsp; For logic, consider how useless a spell that would be.&nbsp; A casting time of 1 minute for SR 1 . . . Hmmm . . .Get the idea?Basically, here's how you would logically design such a spell, even though it'll still be useless:Seed: Fortify; SR 25 (DC 27)SR -24 (DC -48)1-action casting time (DC +20)No verbal component (DC +2)No somantic component (DC +2)Sub Total: DC 3Permanent duration (DC x 5)Final Total: DC 15Heh, still useless, but there you go.&nbsp; That is more like a spell that would be used.&nbsp; For a suggested minimum, you can go with SR 13 if you like.&nbsp; Here you go:Seed: Fortify; SR 25 (DC 27)SR -12 (DC -24)1-action casting time (DC +20)No verbal component (DC +2)No somantic component (DC +2)Sub Total: DC 27Permanent duration (DC x 5)Final Total: DC 135As you can see, &quot;Permanent duration&quot; is rarely worth the cost of admission, although DC 135 should be easy to reach at Level 30+ seeing as an epic spellcaster worth anything should have an item to boost the skill check by +60 minimum at that point.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Anubis, post: 1568007, member: 2358"] It would indeed be that low. For logic, consider how useless a spell that would be. A casting time of 1 minute for SR 1 . . . Hmmm . . . Get the idea? Basically, here's how you would logically design such a spell, even though it'll still be useless: Seed: Fortify; SR 25 (DC 27) SR -24 (DC -48) 1-action casting time (DC +20) No verbal component (DC +2) No somantic component (DC +2) Sub Total: DC 3 Permanent duration (DC x 5) Final Total: DC 15 Heh, still useless, but there you go. That is more like a spell that would be used. For a suggested minimum, you can go with SR 13 if you like. Here you go: Seed: Fortify; SR 25 (DC 27) SR -12 (DC -24) 1-action casting time (DC +20) No verbal component (DC +2) No somantic component (DC +2) Sub Total: DC 27 Permanent duration (DC x 5) Final Total: DC 135 As you can see, "Permanent duration" is rarely worth the cost of admission, although DC 135 should be easy to reach at Level 30+ seeing as an epic spellcaster worth anything should have an item to boost the skill check by +60 minimum at that point. [/QUOTE]

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