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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8037654" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>You and me both buddy. I love lizardpeople, and I don't even really know why, but I love them nonetheless.</p><p></p><p>Problematic fave? In D&D, I think Taladas borders on the problematic at times, and under close examinations there's a lot of stuff you could argue was problematic - though I think in most of the cases, including the worst case (apartheid elves and their darker-skinned human buddies) you could argue it was deconstruction/examination/criticism of such systems rather than an endorsement. Given the author (Zeb Cook, who turned up to support BLM recently) I strongly suspect it was a criticism.</p><p></p><p>How do I handle it? It doesn't require much handling, thankfully, but I think if I was very strongly recommending Taladas to someone I would highlight the problematic elements so they were aware of them and didn't think I was trying to trick them into ignoring them.</p><p></p><p>Outside D&D I'm sorry but I love Red Sonja. I do. That doesn't mean I think everything or even really <em>anything</em> in RPGs needs to be like that, but I love Red Sonja and I love barbarians of both (and perhaps other) genders hanging around in skimpy clothes. You guys rock. Keep doing your barbarian thing. Never let them make you wear pants unless you want to!</p><p></p><p>How do I handle that? With a lot of pointing out that I don't think it should be a thing generally and I prefer it to be applied equally. I mean, interestingly to me, as much as I love RS and the like, the typical part of bikini-clad girls at the sides of a throne of some warlord still makes me uncomfortable, because that feels like something different.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8037654, member: 18"] You and me both buddy. I love lizardpeople, and I don't even really know why, but I love them nonetheless. Problematic fave? In D&D, I think Taladas borders on the problematic at times, and under close examinations there's a lot of stuff you could argue was problematic - though I think in most of the cases, including the worst case (apartheid elves and their darker-skinned human buddies) you could argue it was deconstruction/examination/criticism of such systems rather than an endorsement. Given the author (Zeb Cook, who turned up to support BLM recently) I strongly suspect it was a criticism. How do I handle it? It doesn't require much handling, thankfully, but I think if I was very strongly recommending Taladas to someone I would highlight the problematic elements so they were aware of them and didn't think I was trying to trick them into ignoring them. Outside D&D I'm sorry but I love Red Sonja. I do. That doesn't mean I think everything or even really [I]anything[/I] in RPGs needs to be like that, but I love Red Sonja and I love barbarians of both (and perhaps other) genders hanging around in skimpy clothes. You guys rock. Keep doing your barbarian thing. Never let them make you wear pants unless you want to! How do I handle that? With a lot of pointing out that I don't think it should be a thing generally and I prefer it to be applied equally. I mean, interestingly to me, as much as I love RS and the like, the typical part of bikini-clad girls at the sides of a throne of some warlord still makes me uncomfortable, because that feels like something different. [/QUOTE]
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