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<blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 8037988" data-attributes="member: 7023840">I didn't want to go to into the weeds on the example, but it's common to see misogynistic references to women as &quot;prostitutes&quot; (and/or various less neutral terms terms for that, similar to 'horror') in either the literal or figurative sense. In addition, the idea that either all women are prostitutes, or that you can't tell the difference, tends to be a misogynistic theme; sex as a commodity that women are withholding from men. That doesn't mean that, for example, there aren't powerful arguments that are made today regarding normalizing and/or destigmatizing sex work. That's beyond the scope of what I was writing about, and I don't think that the particular passage (or the companion random harlot table) is a good argument regarding the moral value and worth of sex workers. But AD&amp;D (PHB, DMG) was written from a distinctly male point of view, and is unlikely to be seen as (and was not seen as) particularly inclusive toward women in subtle and not-so-subtle ways at the time. This was already a very long piece, and I didn't want to go into the other structural issues.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Snarf Zagyg, post: 8037988, member: 7023840"] I didn't want to go to into the weeds on the example, but it's common to see misogynistic references to women as "prostitutes" (and/or various less neutral terms terms for that, similar to 'horror') in either the literal or figurative sense. In addition, the idea that either all women are prostitutes, or that you can't tell the difference, tends to be a misogynistic theme; sex as a commodity that women are withholding from men. That doesn't mean that, for example, there aren't powerful arguments that are made today regarding normalizing and/or destigmatizing sex work. That's beyond the scope of what I was writing about, and I don't think that the particular passage (or the companion random harlot table) is a good argument regarding the moral value and worth of sex workers. But AD&D (PHB, DMG) was written from a distinctly male point of view, and is unlikely to be seen as (and was not seen as) particularly inclusive toward women in subtle and not-so-subtle ways at the time. This was already a very long piece, and I didn't want to go into the other structural issues. [/QUOTE]

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