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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mmu1" data-source="post: 414189" data-attributes="member: 319">First of all, here is the original quote:"Okay then, why does the Fighter HAVE to bash the goblins, or the Rogue HAVE to pick the locks and find the traps without the other characters paying them directly for it? Certainly those are more dangerous jobs in general than standing in the back and throwing spells."It was posted in response to someone's  ridiculous assertion that the party ought to pay the wizard for casting spells.  Does it imply that fighters and rogues are generally at more risk than wizards? Why shouldn't it, it's the correct perception... But all it is saying is that, as the fighter is "obligated" to fight the goblins and the rogue to check traps, so is the wizard to cast spells for the benfit of the party.It's nowhere near the one-sided point of view you're trying to present it as, and to make it seem as if the poor wizard is being unfairly put-upon.Incidentally, I still don't see anyone asking him to fight in melee, which is what you concentrated on almost exclusively the last time in your attempt to derail the argument by taking details of someone's post out of context.</blockquote>