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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ARandomGod" data-source="post: 2452944" data-attributes="member: 17296">And I understand the "it's more diffuse than that" thought. But the spell states that it locates the object/person in question. It doesn't matter if it's white text on black or black text on white, either way you're specificallly seeing the words, and you're reading them without a miss chance.Actually, even if you defined the aura as a huge black field, with only the white of the creature invisible, well, you can still read the letters. It doesn't have to be skin-tight fitting. Actually they do. At least if you are using the spell "lightning bolt" and not using the quicken feat. That's pretty clearly spelled out. If you're using some other ability, well... whatever it is is defined by what it says, not by what it doesn't say. As per definitions. You're the one here making up things that aren't said. In this case, you're making up a power that invisibility has that's not said, the ability to negate other forms of sight (other than the visible light spectrum). But the miss chance is from not seeing, it lets you see. Therefore invisibility itself says that Arcane Sight negates the miss chance. It doesn't meantion the spell specifically because it doesn't HAVE to. Anything that lets you see the supposedly invisible person or item 'negates' the invisibility.Err... I assert that YOU seem to be thinking that by not meantioning the fact that it lets you see targets that it... well... no, you seem to be simply confusing your terms here. The miss chance from invisibility is because you can't be seen. The ability to see the 'invisible' thing will negate the miss chance from it not being seeable... the AS spell allows you to see things. It's really all pretty clear there in the rules.Sure. The darkness spell allows you to sleep better at night by not having people with bullseye lanterns disturb your sleep by shining them on you. Fabricate allows you to breath underwater, in appropriate circumstances... Feather fall gives you more time to shoot at targets on the ground as you fall if you're falling from a height that would (under normal circumstances) have you hit the ground in one turn. Find the path also allows you to locate objects (if your desired location is to, say, the statue you're looking for). The disguise spell could allow you to be more successful 'with the ladies'. Fire seeds could burn down an entire town (under the right circumstances). Fog cloud can help dampen fires and moisturize skin, and yet it makes no meantion of this. Forcecage can stop an avalance. Freezing Sphere can be used to cool an area down (in conjunction with water). Gentle repose can also be used to preserve food. The Ghost Sound cantrip can kill. Glitterdust can be use to make excellent confetti. Globes of Invulnerability can not only be used to stop spells, but also to just plain "look cool". Grease can be used in all sorts of ways, not all of which are meantioned in the spell... And that's just a few minutes and looking at one spell page.</blockquote>

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