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<blockquote data-quote="Xeviat" data-source="post: 8125857" data-attributes="member: 57494">How did you come to these damage numbers? Shadow Blade cast as a 4th level spell only deals 3d8 + Str or Dex damage, and yours can be used twice. Your melee damage is 19.5 and your ranged damage is 28 by the way, so waaaay higher for ranged.I like the theory. I think the damage numbers are off. A single casting of a 4th level spell should be doing &quot;around&quot; 6d10 to one target (save half) or 7d6 to multiple targets (save half), increased by 25% since you have an attack roll for no damage (so around 41.3 for single target, or 30.6 for multi target).How many rounds are we assuming it gets to be up for? Temp HP instead of replacing HP means the polymorphed target will probably not stay up as long. You could also always lose concentration, so it's really hard to say. 2 rounds is probably a safe bet.Shadow Blade at 3d8 + Spell mod damage (being nice to it) as a 4th level spell is 18.5 damage, but it is a bonus action. Polymorph is also going to cost your action and then the actions of your target (whether that's you or the fighter), so that has to be taken into account.Oh, this analysis is more complex than I was assuming.So where did you pull the damage numbers from?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Xeviat, post: 8125857, member: 57494"] How did you come to these damage numbers? Shadow Blade cast as a 4th level spell only deals 3d8 + Str or Dex damage, and yours can be used twice. Your melee damage is 19.5 and your ranged damage is 28 by the way, so waaaay higher for ranged. I like the theory. I think the damage numbers are off. A single casting of a 4th level spell should be doing "around" 6d10 to one target (save half) or 7d6 to multiple targets (save half), increased by 25% since you have an attack roll for no damage (so around 41.3 for single target, or 30.6 for multi target). How many rounds are we assuming it gets to be up for? Temp HP instead of replacing HP means the polymorphed target will probably not stay up as long. You could also always lose concentration, so it's really hard to say. 2 rounds is probably a safe bet. Shadow Blade at 3d8 + Spell mod damage (being nice to it) as a 4th level spell is 18.5 damage, but it is a bonus action. Polymorph is also going to cost your action and then the actions of your target (whether that's you or the fighter), so that has to be taken into account. Oh, this analysis is more complex than I was assuming. So where did you pull the damage numbers from? [/QUOTE]

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