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<blockquote data-quote="pukunui" data-source="post: 7245105" data-attributes="member: 54629">This is not an error per se, but I thought it was worth mentioning here anyway: In The Forge of Fury, the text assumes that the PCs can communicate with the duergar (specifically Ghared and Nimira). However, by default, both of them can speak Dwarvish and Undercommon only, so if no one in your party can speak either of those languages, then technically negotiation is off the table.Of course, you can always make it so those two duergar, at least, can speak Common.As an aside, neither this version of the adventure, nor the original 3.5 edition, gives any indication as to how the duergar got here. There's no tunnel into the Underdark anywhere. They must have trekked across the surface from somewhere else.Also, I think I like the original version's story for Idalla the succubus better. The wizard from the previous adventuring expedition summoned her and trapped her in the library. This helps explain why she is there and why she seems reluctant to leave the room despite asking the PCs to rescue her. In this new version, Arundil summoned her, she killed him, and then she decided to stay ... and has somehow been luring adventurers to the lair ever since. The text gives no indication of how she does this, but it would seem not to be particularly fruitful for her, as there appears to have been only one expedition in recent times prior to the PCs. Also, having her refuse to leave the room after asking the PCs to rescue her makes no sense in this new context. I think I'll go with the original idea. She's stuck in that room unless the PCs invite her out.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pukunui, post: 7245105, member: 54629"] This is not an error per se, but I thought it was worth mentioning here anyway: In [I]The Forge of Fury[/I], the text assumes that the PCs can communicate with the duergar (specifically Ghared and Nimira). However, by default, both of them can speak Dwarvish and Undercommon only, so if no one in your party can speak either of those languages, then technically negotiation is off the table. Of course, you can always make it so those two duergar, at least, can speak Common. As an aside, neither this version of the adventure, nor the original 3.5 edition, gives any indication as to how the duergar got here. There's no tunnel into the Underdark anywhere. They must have trekked across the surface from somewhere else. Also, I think I like the original version's story for Idalla the succubus better. The wizard from the previous adventuring expedition summoned her and trapped her in the library. This helps explain why she is there and why she seems reluctant to leave the room despite asking the PCs to rescue her. In this new version, Arundil summoned her, she killed him, and then she decided to stay ... and has somehow been luring adventurers to the lair ever since. The text gives no indication of how she does this, but it would seem not to be particularly fruitful for her, as there appears to have been only one expedition in recent times prior to the PCs. Also, having her refuse to leave the room after asking the PCs to rescue her makes no sense in this new context. I think I'll go with the original idea. She's stuck in that room unless the PCs invite her out. [/QUOTE]

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