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Message: <blockquote data-quote="(Psi)SeveredHead" data-source="post: 6073873" data-attributes="member: 1165">This is a rushed check.Sounded like a negotiation attempt. Mind you, they were offering nothing, in return for potentially threatening behavior (armed or magic-using strangers want to go inside your house).That was rushed. It wouldn't have been rushed if the heroes had given reasons to enter the house.Someone needs to bring the heroes info about the house. Maybe someone attacked or killed a resident of the house, even if it was by accident. (The villains might be against killing the residents, as they provide good cover.)Alternatively, tell them to try again, but with an actual plan of what they'll say before they go there. Before you know it, there'll be an elaborate con. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Also, see this: <a href="http://www.giantitp.com/articles/jFppYwv7OUkegKhONNF.html" target="_blank">http://www.giantitp.com/articles/jFppYwv7OUkegKhONNF.html</a>This is a great Diplomacy system. It makes Diplomacy a negotation, not a "make friends" skill. But it seems you're using Diplomacy that way already.The heroes have no relationship with the target, so no modifier.The risk/reward is probably unfavorable (-5 to check, or +5 to DC, if you prefer) because letting armed strangers in the house is bad news. Using forged documents could have changed this, of course. (Keeping cops out of your hose is a risk, letting them in avoids risk. Unless you're hiding evidence, of course.)So in essence, the heroes botched it royally. They took a penalty for rushing it and another penalty for presenting moderate risk with no reward whatsoever.</blockquote>

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